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trsnider

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10-30-2017 02:49 PM

Topic tags/keywords: walnut panels bathroom cabinet

I’m making a new walnut bathroom cabinet. If I didn’t have any lumber I’d buy 1/4” plywood for the cabinet panels (10.5×26.25). However I have enough lumber that I can resaw / surface to make the panels out of solid wood. I know that moisture / movement could be a problem but will it? I had planned to use mortise and stub tenons on the stiles and rails. Should I take a chance and use the wood? The top coat will be General Finishes Enduro-var.
Thanks!!


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Bobmedic

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#1 posted 10-30-2017 03:17 PM

The wood panels will be fine. Just leave room in the grooves for expansion. You can use small weather stripping or those little rubber balls to keep the panel from rattling while still allowing expansion.

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#2 posted 10-30-2017 09:21 PM

TR, use the wood you have and leave space for it to expand and contract seasonally. I like to finish panels before putting them in the frame so the unfinished edges won’t show when the wood contracts. HTH

-- Art

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#3 posted 10-30-2017 09:35 PM

I would use space balls :<))

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#4 posted 10-30-2017 11:49 PM

Pre-finish the panels and you’ll be fine.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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trsnider

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#5 posted 10-31-2017 12:23 AM

Thanks for the responses, I probably knew all that. I’ve been in the habit of prefinishing panels and not glueing them in. After closer review of my wood I only have enough for the frame, doors, and shelves. So I’ll end up using plywood after all.

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#6 posted 10-31-2017 01:47 AM

Stub tenons are for use with plywood panels where you glue the panel to the frame that is what holds the door together. If you go with solid wood panels, you will have leave them loose for movement and you will need more than a stub tenon to hold the door together. Think mortise and tenon for the frame.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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sawdustdad

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#7 posted 10-31-2017 02:31 AM

Or cope and stick the frame. The 10 inch wide walnut panel may expand and contract about 1/8 inch across it’s width, depending on where you live and how dry it is to begin with. Now that you’re going with plywood, it’s all moot.

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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#8 posted 10-31-2017 03:56 AM

It is a lot easier to stay with plywood. Unless you make raised panels there is no difference in look and plywood normally will be stronger. You can glue the plywood in which will make a very strong door, which is especially important if you make mirered frame. With wood you have to fully finish panels including clear coat . Then you have to mask them when finishing the frames. Then you need to remove stain that leaked under the mask….

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#9 posted 10-31-2017 11:44 AM

I never prefinish door panels…....just saying

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#10 posted 10-31-2017 12:14 PM



I never prefinish door panels…....just saying

- cabmaker


Why?

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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Carloz

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#11 posted 10-31-2017 02:59 PM

I never prefinish door panels…....just saying

- cabmaker

Why?

- RobS888


Many people cut corners. Some do not prefinish door panels, some use “strong enough” joints. It is called attention to details and what distinguishes excellent from “good enough” job.

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#12 posted 10-31-2017 03:15 PM

I prefinish the panels. Been doing that ever since I had a solid wood panel shrink and show unfinished edges. I won’t risk that again.

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cabmaker

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#13 posted 10-31-2017 11:55 PM

I have had a panel or two shrink and reveal bare wood before, its a very rare occurrence…especially when i do the finish in house.

And rob….you ask why ?

Im not a hobbies,,,,,,I guess there are just things you learn how to do when you do it for a living,

Note above…...a panel or two…...not too bad considering the volume i do

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cabmaker

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#14 posted 10-31-2017 11:58 PM

I have had a panel or two shrink and reveal bare wood before, its a very rare occurrence…especially when i do the finish in house.

And rob….you ask why ?

Im not a hobbiest,,,,,,I guess there are just things you learn how to do when you do it for a living,

Note above…...a panel or two…...not too bad considering the volume i do

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Carloz

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#15 posted 11-01-2017 12:04 AM

You just nay not know how many of them are hanging there showing their not so pretty internals.

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