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Stanley Coker

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10-27-2017 01:37 PM

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OK fellow LJ I have a problem. I am doing a walnut blanket chest for a friend and have a problem with the lid supports. To give a quick look at the design, It has raised panel sides and I decided for the corners to use a
2” X 2” post and used pocket hole screws to attach the sides. I recessed the sides 3/8 of an inch to the corners. I also lined the inside with cedar that I resawed and planed down to 3/16 ” thick. I used a piano hinge for the lid and was going to use a couple of lid supports from Rockler so the lid would not slam shut on someones fingers. I had to add a strip on the back in between the corners so there would not be a recess, so when I put the piano hinge on the lid would not hit the corners when opened. Here is my problem, the instructions for installing the lid supports shows installing on 3/4” back, but with the cedar lining and the strip to fill in between the corners the top of the back is actually 1 1/4” thick. When I installed the lid support the lip would not shut all the way before the lid support hit the stop. I tried to add a 1/2” spacer to the lid, but had the same results. I would really like to use the lid supports to keep the lid from slamming shut. Need some suggestions please.

Thanks

-- Stanley, North Georgia


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woody57

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#1 posted 10-27-2017 02:59 PM

I had the same problem about 15yrs ago. Mine was mahogany with a cedar lining. I can’t remember what I did, but I remember having to try several supports. Good luck

-- Emmett, from Georgia

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bondogaposis

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#2 posted 10-27-2017 03:38 PM

Pictures here would really help.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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henigail

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#3 posted 10-27-2017 03:57 PM

You could mortise the hinges on the inside of the case if I’m visualizing correctly. Another option is to use Brusso butt hinges and lid stays. They don’t prevent smashed fingers and they’re expensive but as elegant as it gets…and thickness of the rear case panel doesn’t matter.

I hope you accounted for wood movement somehow when pocket screwing panels directly to the “legs” like that. Technically that should have been frame and panel construction to allow for movement.

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bandit571

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#4 posted 10-27-2017 04:02 PM

Hmmm…try something like this?

Locked..

Unlocked, chain is now tight..support can then be swung over…

And folded down out of the way, so the lid can close..

Made from the same Maple as the rest of the chest…cost? two screws?

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Carloz

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#5 posted 10-27-2017 08:29 PM

No offence, but I wonder why would one one go on a long writing describing the design and let us go through the mental anguish trying to decipher what you mean rather than just snapping a photo with one of the photogadgets scattered around your house and uploading the photo.

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runswithscissors

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#6 posted 10-28-2017 02:48 AM

I made lid supports for my grandkid’s toy chest from springs. Somewhere I think I have photos of these, but can’t find them.

If you hold a screen door spring, of course you notice how flexible it is. But if you push in on the ends, it becomes rigid. I used similar springs (a little shorter, as I recall) and made brackets to allow pivoting at each end. When you lift the lid, the springs straighten out and become rigid. To lower it, you have to push down the middle of both springs. Though one spring will hold the lid up, I didn’t want the little guy smashing his fingers. It takes an intentional effort to lower the lid with both springs. Not something likely to happen accidentally.

In figuring out the geometry of this, you have to consider that the springs must drop down into the chest when you close the lid. Takes a bit of figuring out with sketches, etc. but not hard to do.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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Stanley Coker

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#7 posted 10-28-2017 08:58 AM

Thanks for all the help guys. And no offense to you, Carloz, I don’t happen to have one of those photogadgets around the house.

-- Stanley, North Georgia

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