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02-12-2011 07:06 PM

Hey gang, ive just purchase a G1019 Grizzly bandsaw which is still in its original box from 1997. Im in the middle of assembly here and the instructions differ a little bit from whats actually there. I tried to call tech support but they are closed so i’m turning to the best of the rest here at LJ’s. 2 questions here:

There are 2 small keys (one for each pulley), i assume that these sit in the recess and the set screw tightens down on them. Am i correct on this? Pics below.

Also the wiring diagram in the instructions shows a male and female plug, this is not the case as to whats there. There is a 3 wire pigtail coming from the motor .. a gree, white, and black wire. On the switch there is a red, black, and green wire. My question is how do i hook up the wires from the motor (1st pic below) to the switch (2nd pic below). It will be run on 110v. Do i hook them up to the screws directly across from where the switch wires currently are? Black to black, red to white, and green to green?

As i further my assembly here im sure i will have some more questions. Thanks everyone!

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk


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#1 posted 02-12-2011 07:24 PM

echooooooo

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#2 posted 02-12-2011 08:12 PM

1. Yes you’re right the key goes in the slot & the set screw screws down to hold it in place.

2. What you’re showing me on the electrical hook-up is apples & oranges. In picture 1 these are the main feed to the machine. White is common, black is hot & green is ground. In picture 2 the black is hot & the red is switched hot (that’s the way it is usually put together). Somewhere the common (white in picture 1) goes to the motor and red in photo 2 goes to the motor (if it IS the switched hot feed). Get out your volt meter and check that switch to make sure that black is in and red is switched out. NOTE: DO THIS WITH THE POWER DISCONNECTED.

Pop

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#3 posted 02-12-2011 08:48 PM

im a little confused pop …. the first photo is the wiring from the motor (black white and green) the second photo is the wiring from the on/off switch to the plug. I need to connect the motor wiring (1st picture, black white and green wires) to the switch box (2nd picture. red, black and green).

The green is the ground and those will be connected together, properly grounded to the machine.

My question is the 2 remaining wires in the 1st picture (black and white) need to be connected to the on/off switch (2nd picture). Does the black wire from the 1st photo connect to the screw across from the black wire in the second photo? Does the white wire (1st picture) connect to the screw across from the red wire (2nd photo)?

Im a litttle electrically challenged so i apologize if i sound like a bone head here, but really appreciate your help.

If you would like any other pictures let me know .. cameras handy.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#4 posted 02-12-2011 09:03 PM

Ok heres what i got goin on … Below is the wiring from the motor.

And here is the wiring of the switch from the power supply cord.

How do i hook them together?

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#5 posted 02-12-2011 10:05 PM

FYI .. the above pictures in reality are shifted 90 degrees clockwise

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#6 posted 02-12-2011 10:24 PM

Chrisstef—Did the assembly instructions come with a wiring diagram or schematics? If so, please post as it would be easier to be sure of the correct connections. If you don’t have the schematics, you can check the continuity (ohms) out of the switch to see how it is wired. Check the continuity across the connectors, 1 is usually common across both and the other is open or closed depending on the switch position. The black wires are used for the hot lead, as Pop said. Once you know how the switch is set up, it will be easy to understand how to connect the wires.

-- Joe B

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#7 posted 02-12-2011 10:24 PM

chrisstel, that red wire is throwing me a little. I now have a better view of what you have. On the wires from the motor: green goes to the power cord green. white is common & black is hot. In common electrical practice the both the black & red wires should be hot. SO! Now you’ve got to figure out what on the power cord is hot, red or black. If the power cord has a new updated plug the wider of the 2 straight prongs is common. Check to see if the wide prong is hooked to the red or black power cord. Which ever is the common plug should hook to the white motor wire. The other to the black motor wire. I think this might help. I’v never seen a power cord with red, black & ground before.

Pop

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#8 posted 02-12-2011 10:37 PM

Jobott, no wiring schemtaic supplied with this one … its a discontinued grizzly model that a guy on craigslist had in his basement still in the box! ($150 bucks gloat).

Pop, im going to check out the larger of the two prongs on the supply cord, looks like its going to be invasive surgery. If i do happen to determine which wire is hot do i screw them to the terminals on the switch across from their respesctive wires? or together?

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#9 posted 02-12-2011 10:44 PM

Here’s what the manual has for a wiring diagram. I downloaded it from tGrizzleys website. There have been some descrepansies so far so im not sure how much i trust them. The manual was updated in 2001 and the saw has a manufacturing date of 1997 on it.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#10 posted 02-12-2011 10:47 PM

Chrisstef— Just realized I have that same saw in my shop. I checked the switch wiring on mine and Pop is correct. Wire the motor wires across from the switch wires. Black to black and red to white. Of course, attach the greens to ground. Good luck.

-- Joe B

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#11 posted 02-12-2011 10:50 PM

I think what Pop is trying to say is that you always switch the hot (usually black), as opposed to the neutral (usually white), for safety reasons. A quick continuity test between the prongs and the end of the wires will tell you which wire goes with which prong. I can’t tell from the photo, but for a three pronged plug, the two flat ones will probably be the same size, but if you look at a modern 3 prong receptacle, you’ll see that one is narrower. The narrower one is the hot, the wider one is the neutral. In that last photo, the one closest to the camera is hot.

In this case, though, they’ve already hooked up the power to the switch, so other than making sure that the swich is wired correctly, I don’t think it matters so much for the motor. The motor is downstream from the switch, and since it is AC, the motor will work with the hot and neutral in either position. The ground is, of course, very important, and will be green to green.

It’s also possible that the switch opens both hot and neutral, in which case, it really doesn’t matter, I think.

-- Barry, http://BarrysWorkshop.com/

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#12 posted 02-12-2011 10:51 PM

HOT DIGGIITY !!!! Thanks so much … of course the wife and i have a dinner date with friends and i wont be able to fire up the saw until tomorrow. Then off to the hardware store to find 2 allen head bolts because they decided to provide coarse thread screws instead of fine thread screws for the fence rail attachment.

Jobott and pop thanks for all the help … who needs tech support when you’ve got 25,000 lumberjocks!

BTW Jobott .. how do you like the saw?

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#13 posted 02-12-2011 11:05 PM

The saw works very well, Happy with the power altho the fence is kinda crappy. I’d replace my fence but a good band saw fence is as much as I paid for the saw! I got mine used for $150 but yours is NEW!! Make sure you set up for drift, and put a GOOD blade on the saw. Standard blade leaves alot to be desired. Have fun.

-- Joe B

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#14 posted 02-12-2011 11:22 PM

Right on, thanks for the tips …

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#15 posted 02-12-2011 11:47 PM

chrisstef! If you plug it in and fire flys you got it backwards. Just joking

Pop

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