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Forum topic by pontic posted 10-24-2017 01:32 PM 612 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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pontic

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10-24-2017 01:32 PM

Are they worthwhile? I just purchased a rail and style set. They seem to cut well. Anyone have any comments on them?

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#1 posted 10-24-2017 02:15 PM

Like many people, I bought a set of MLCS bits as a starter set. They’re good bits. Certainly they do the job. They’re not as nice as premium bits, but when you don’t know what you need, having a decent starter set is a good thing. I’m replacing as I go with nicer Amana, Freud, CMT, etc bits when I can.

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#2 posted 10-24-2017 02:25 PM

I’ve got several bits that I bought over the years from MLCS from round overs to dove tail bits, to whatever….They still cut perfectly fine, seem to hold a good edge on the carbide, and good bearings….I’ve prolly bought 20 or so bits from them, and when I need a new bit, or bits, that’s who I order from….I’ve found no problems with them, and like I said, they hold an edge…..I also bought a dove tail jig, but have never used it….It’s still in the box, and that’s been 8 years ago…...

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#3 posted 10-24-2017 03:03 PM

I see them as a “second tier” bit, second to brands such as Freud, Whiteside, and CMT (and a few others). But the offer good value, and are very serviceable bits…they just don’t last as long as the others (IMHO). Second tier doesn’t mean they are awful, just that there are better ones. To your question, I see them as worthwhile….more so in some uses than others.

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#4 posted 10-24-2017 04:53 PM

Only caution on lower cost bits that have matching profiles is to make sure they match. The Whiteside we sell are measured with a micrometer after cutting to make sure the profile match is perfect for the mating pieces.

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#5 posted 10-24-2017 08:48 PM

MLCS is a distributor not a manufacturer. I would actually put them on par with Amana and Infinity. I just can’t justify the $ for Freud. Not sure if it is the same for all of their bits but they seem to be manufactured by Katana.

They seem to stay sharp, be well made and accurate. My review of a Katana bit.

In fact, I’m not sure that my Amana raised panel set is not a Katana set. That color can’t be a coincidence.

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#6 posted 10-24-2017 10:54 PM

I bought five 1/4 inch shank, quarter inch diameter 90 degree v-bits from them. I use these bits a lot doing engraving on a CNC router. Two of them were completely unusable. One had a big burr that wasn’t ground off and the other was blunt on the end. The other three were so dull that I just threw them away after one use. You have to have sharp bits in my application and these weren’t. Based on that experience, I can’t recommend the standard brand, regardless of price. Katana is a premium product that is sold at a higher price. I have a cope and stick cabinet door set of that brand and they are okay. I can’t say how long they will last because I only built 6 doors using them.

While we are talking bit quality, I use Freud bits sometimes but I much prefer Whiteside because they stay sharp longer and are a little cheaper. I wear out a lot of bits cutting with a CNC router and cost is an issue.

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#7 posted 10-25-2017 02:25 AM

I Just cut a few test pieces. Seem to perform OK. Think I will get White side Where’s the best place to get them?

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#8 posted 10-25-2017 02:31 AM


Katana is a premium product that is sold at a higher price. I have a cope and stick cabinet door set of that brand and they are okay. I can t say how long they will last because I only built 6 doors using them.

- ArtMaana

So, you’re saying that not all MLCS bits are Katana?

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pontic

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#9 posted 10-25-2017 02:39 AM

No not all MLCS are Katana.
Now who sells Whiteside?

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#10 posted 10-25-2017 03:28 AM

No not all MLCS are Katana.
Now who sells Whiteside?

- pontic

Amazon has a good selection of Whiteside.

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pontic

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#11 posted 10-25-2017 03:49 AM

They don’t make shaper cutters. For large repetitive projects I use shaper cutter blades. They perform much better than router bits.

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#12 posted 10-25-2017 04:28 AM

Sorry. Ditto on Amazon for Whiteside. Only place I’ve ever gotten them. 2 day free shipping and they seem to always have them in stock so overnight in a pinch. I believe I’ve seen them in-store at Woodcraft also.

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#13 posted 10-25-2017 11:06 AM

Holbren (above) also has a complete selection. Contact Brian, he can help.

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#14 posted 10-25-2017 12:53 PM

Heartville Hardware carries a nice selection of whiteside router bits. i think Freeborn makes a equal quality in shaper cutters

i have the MLCS brad point set which are nice for the price

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#15 posted 10-25-2017 01:51 PM

I have one Freeborn Entry door set for my shaper 3/4 bore. It costs 635.46 dollars. It’s makes the 1,3/4 door with the 1/2 panel groove. It is most excellent. Early on I got cabinet sets for my router set up. when I got the shaper I just used the 1/2” collet attachment and used the bits that way with good results. Except for the large miter lock cutter so I got a shaper cutter for that. Works much better. My nephew dropped my CMT cove Rail bit on the floor and chipped a big chunk of carbide off it.(girrr) SoI thought I would try MLCS since they were cheaper. They seem to work well so far. I have not done any large amount of runs with them however. I am slowly transitioning to all shaper cutters now. So when I get a replacement shaper cutter I will probibly give the router bit that it’s replacing to some deserving newbie lumberjock.

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