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SweetTea

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10-22-2017 12:45 PM

I am in the market for a new miter saw for my bench mounted shop setup. It will spend the vast majority of its life cutting 90’s and will never leave my shop. I do not want a slider as i am on a budget and can not afford a $600+ saw and I an very anal about accuracy and in my experience a non slider stays more accurate than a slider over time.

With that being said, I have narrowed it down to the Jet 10” non slider or the Makita 12” non slider. The Milwaukee saws are awesome but they only make sliders and sliders are out of my budget. Same with Bosch. I have about $300 to spend, and would like to get some opinions on the various non sliders that you guys might recommend. The 10” Jet is the same price as the 12” Makita. Around $300. I could get a brand new unopened Dewalt 10” non slider locally for $145 through a friend, but I have read that the Dewalts do not stay in tune very well over time. Opinions?


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Woodchuck2010

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#1 posted 10-22-2017 12:58 PM

There is a new Ridgid 10” slider coming out very soon. I work at Home Depot part time and talked with the Rep. He said it should be here for the holidays. It will be a special buy at $299. The previous one was really good, but he said they made improvements to it. If you register it, you will get a lifetime warranty too. Some say that the warranty is not very good, but not from my experiences.

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bigblockyeti

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#2 posted 10-22-2017 01:06 PM

I would go for the Makita. I used one for quite a while and they make an excellent 12” miter saw. I’ve used their 12” & 10” sliding miter saws as well and while they are nice when you need the capacity, they are a compromise from a potential deflection standpoint when the capacity is not needed.

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waho6o9

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#3 posted 10-22-2017 01:18 PM

I got a Ryobi off of Craigslist and tuned it up real well with a digital readout, it’s very accurate. The Freud
blade does the job.

Put a good blade on that Dewalt and save some money.

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teejk02

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#4 posted 10-22-2017 01:26 PM

I have an older Dewalt 12” non-slider and rarely fiddle with the alignment. Usually any issues are solved by cleaning out any sawdust that affects the stops. I can’t speak for the newer ones though…they somehow look “cheaper” now and may not lock in like the older ones. As for 10” vs 12”, blades are cheaper for 10” but for some reason I feel more comfortable with the 12”. Most cuts are complete before the saw fully bottoms out.

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SweetTea

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#5 posted 10-22-2017 11:15 PM



I have an older Dewalt 12” non-slider and rarely fiddle with the alignment. Usually any issues are solved by cleaning out any sawdust that affects the stops. I can t speak for the newer ones though…they somehow look “cheaper” now and may not lock in like the older ones. As for 10” vs 12”, blades are cheaper for 10” but for some reason I feel more comfortable with the 12”. Most cuts are complete before the saw fully bottoms out.

- teejk02

My current Dewalt 12” non slider has play in the side to side position. Won’t even lock in at zero (90). Everything is tight on the detent plate. It doesn’t have the twist knob, just this flip down handle that doesn’t work:

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jonah

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#6 posted 10-23-2017 12:20 AM

Most 10” non-sliders will only crosscut ~6 inches, which I find to be prohibitively little capacity. That’s why I bought a 12” non slider when I bought one years ago. My saw will crosscut over nine inches.

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teejk02

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#7 posted 10-23-2017 12:51 AM


I have an older Dewalt 12” non-slider and rarely fiddle with the alignment. Usually any issues are solved by cleaning out any sawdust that affects the stops. I can t speak for the newer ones though…they somehow look “cheaper” now and may not lock in like the older ones. As for 10” vs 12”, blades are cheaper for 10” but for some reason I feel more comfortable with the 12”. Most cuts are complete before the saw fully bottoms out.

- teejk02

My current Dewalt 12” non slider has play in the side to side position. Won’t even lock in at zero (90). Everything is tight on the detent plate. It doesn’t have the twist knob, just this flip down handle that doesn’t work:

- SweetTea

Guessing it is a newer one. I looked at one recently and wondered about that…it looked “cheap”. The retail price of that saw has not budged in years so I guess to satisfy the bean counters something had to give…sad to hear that it was quality.

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JayT

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#8 posted 10-23-2017 01:39 AM

Hitachi saws offer the best bang for the buck, IMHO. You might check them out.

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#9 posted 10-23-2017 02:31 AM

I have two Hitachi SCM saws—a 10 inch and a 12 inch. both have lasers (which I consider mandatory). They have been flawless.

Check out bigskytool.com for a reconditioned unit.

https://bigskytool.com/tools/saws/corded-tools-miter-saws.html?brands=195&recon_type=828

You can get a 10 inch Sliding dual compound miter with laser very reasonable. Don’t always have reconditioned in stock, so check periodically until you catch one. The grade A tools are indistinguishable from new.

I’ve bought a bunch of stuff from big sky tool and been very happy with their stuff.

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#10 posted 10-23-2017 03:22 AM

I am in the market for a new miter saw for my bench mounted shop setup. It will spend the vast majority of its life cutting 90’s and will never leave my shop
- SweetTea

Have you considered a RAS? If it’s only going to be doing 90 degree cuts, you can dial it in dead nuts accurate and can cross cut much wider stuff than you can with a miter saw. You can also do stuff that a miter saw can’t, like dados and other non-through cuts, and can build it into your bench pretty easily if you don’t want it stand-alone. They show up on CL all the time for short money – Usually $100 or less. And for the occasional 45’s, you can either make a jig or get a RAS miter vise:

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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SweetTea

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#11 posted 10-23-2017 01:50 PM



I am in the market for a new miter saw for my bench mounted shop setup. It will spend the vast majority of its life cutting 90’s and will never leave my shop
- SweetTea

Have you considered a RAS? If it s only going to be doing 90 degree cuts, you can dial it in dead nuts accurate and can cross cut much wider stuff than you can with a miter saw. You can also do stuff that a miter saw can t, like dados and other non-through cuts, and can build it into your bench pretty easily if you don t want it stand-alone. They show up on CL all the time for short money – Usually $100 or less. And for the occasional 45 s, you can either make a jig or get a RAS miter vise:

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

I had considered doing this, getting a used radial arm saw, but I was told by many other members that those RAS’s can be difficult to keep in tune. Some people said theirs never cut straight after like a day or two after tuning. I would imagine that a 10” non sliding miter saw has less parts to worry about keeping it cutting straight on the 90’s. So a 10” non sliding miter saw would likely stay in tune, longer. But let’s say for a minute that I would consider a RAS, what are some good models and brands to keep an eye out on Craigslist for?

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SweetTea

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#12 posted 10-23-2017 01:52 PM



I have two Hitachi SCM saws—a 10 inch and a 12 inch. both have lasers (which I consider mandatory). They have been flawless.

Check out bigskytool.com for a reconditioned unit.

https://bigskytool.com/tools/saws/corded-tools-miter-saws.html?brands=195&recon_type=828

You can get a 10 inch Sliding dual compound miter with laser very reasonable. Don t always have reconditioned in stock, so check periodically until you catch one. The grade A tools are indistinguishable from new.

I ve bought a bunch of stuff from big sky tool and been very happy with their stuff.

- sawdustdad

I have considered the 10” Hitachi non slider, it’s only $110 at my local Lowes. For a saw that only cuts 90’s and never anything thicker than 13/16” or wider than 3”, then I might be ok with the 10” Hitachi non slider. But the reviews on them on Amazon are not very good.

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rwe2156

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#13 posted 10-23-2017 02:05 PM

If you’re on a budget, the non slider saws can be bought used pretty cheap.

Any name brand will fit the bill.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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scrubs

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#14 posted 10-23-2017 08:01 PM

Man just get one off of craigslist. I see big DeWalt sliders all the time. If you lock the slider when you’re cutting 90’s, they’re very accurate. I picked up a DeWalt sliding compound saw off of cragislist years ago for about $300, most of my cuts are just rough chops to length and it’s been very accurate with the slider locked.

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Loren

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#15 posted 10-23-2017 08:14 PM

Considering what so many are saying about the
quality of miter saws these days, it would make
sense to buy something you can return easily.

I don’t have a miter saw currently. I had a couple
of older DeWalt saws and they were very
satisfactory. Now the designs have changed and
countries of origin are different.

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