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Reaper417

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10-19-2017 04:01 PM

Hey guys,

Just a quick question. I dip in danish oil. Can I pour the oil in a plastic container and cover it when not in use or does it have to go back in the metal container? Thanks in advance for the help….


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#1 posted 10-19-2017 04:09 PM

I’ve stored it in plastic jars, I think the seal and air above it would be the concern. In fact, I store it in a plastic peanut jar with a foam brush in it as well.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#2 posted 10-19-2017 04:37 PM

If it’s not oxidizing, you’re OK. Regarding Rob’s valid concern about the seal and air, a shot of Bloxygen would help that. It’s inert and heavier than air, so it lays down on the surface of the liquid and blocks it from the damaging oxygen. I use it for all of my oil-based finishes, regardless of what container they’re stored in.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#3 posted 10-19-2017 05:10 PM

Watco keeps a long time. I’ve never noticed
it going bad in the can, even when there’s
a lot of air in there.

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#4 posted 10-19-2017 05:45 PM


Watco keeps a long time. I ve never noticed
it going bad in the can, even when there s
a lot of air in there.

- Loren

If it’s oil, it oxidizes. Just because it hasn’t “gone bad” doesn’t mean it hasn’t deteriorated to some degree. At pennies per use, Bloxygen is a cheap way to ensure the finish stays as fresh as possible.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#5 posted 10-19-2017 07:07 PM

A really inexpensive way to store oil finishes is to exhale (your breath) several times into the container.
Remember that our “air” is mostly inert gases. Nitrogen is a big part of the exhalation.
Been doin’ that for years with no down side unless you’re gonna store the finish for a LONG time.
Just an old fart’s tip.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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#6 posted 10-19-2017 07:48 PM

Propane also works. I keep a small torch in the shop and use it for a small shot into the container.

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RobS888

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#7 posted 10-19-2017 09:27 PM



Watco keeps a long time. I ve never noticed
it going bad in the can, even when there s
a lot of air in there.

- Loren


I had a 1/2 full gallon can get pretty hard. it was the natural, so don’t know if that matters, along the same lines I bought 2 quart cans of the watco natural and they were much thicker than the Medium walnut I always use. The medium walnut is very thin, the natural was like polyurethane.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#8 posted 10-19-2017 09:49 PM

Nitrogen is >70% of atmospheric air, and >70% of exhaled air. Oxygen is about 20% of atmospheric air, and about 15% of exhaled air.

Couple that with how uncontrolled “delivery” is (unless you’re mocking up a straw and exhaust port), and its safe to assume that exhaling into a can has a very limited impact.

Realistically, if you’re sealing a can after use there’s only so much oxygen in there to spoil the contents (think in terms of mass, not volume), so you won’t see massive degradation unless its open for a long time or there’s a large air:finish ratio. You can mitigate this by transfering to smaller containers.


A really inexpensive way to store oil finishes is to exhale (your breath) several times into the container.
Remember that our “air” is mostly inert gases. Nitrogen is a big part of the exhalation.
Been doin that for years with no down side unless you re gonna store the finish for a LONG time.
Just an old fart s tip.
Bill
- Bill White

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Reaper417

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#9 posted 10-20-2017 05:04 AM

Thanks everyone for the help. I’m thinking maybe I just better store it in the can. Don’t use it alll the time so maybe I’m better off. Dave

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#10 posted 10-20-2017 11:11 AM

Just a thought…be careful of what you store finishes in and where you store them. Overtime, some containers will fail and spill finish over your tools. I had a can of shellac leak and a huge mess.

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#11 posted 10-20-2017 11:23 AM



Nitrogen is >70% of atmospheric air, and >70% of exhaled air. Oxygen is about 20% of atmospheric air, and about 15% of exhaled air.

Couple that with how uncontrolled “delivery” is (unless you re mocking up a straw and exhaust port), and its safe to assume that exhaling into a can has a very limited impact.

Realistically, if you re sealing a can after use there s only so much oxygen in there to spoil the contents (think in terms of mass, not volume), so you won t see massive degradation unless its open for a long time or there s a large air:finish ratio. You can mitigate this by transfering to smaller containers.

A really inexpensive way to store oil finishes is to exhale (your breath) several times into the container.
Remember that our “air” is mostly inert gases. Nitrogen is a big part of the exhalation.
Been doin that for years with no down side unless you re gonna store the finish for a LONG time.
Just an old fart s tip.
Bill
- Bill White

- gargey

+1

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