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Forum topic by Twistedup posted 10-19-2017 01:21 PM 1996 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Twistedup

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10-19-2017 01:21 PM

So i am just a hobbyist and i enjoy learning new things about woodworking and I came across this the other day i tried to find any news or info about cost and availability and found nothing. Anyone here have any thoughts or information on how well this system will work over time. I would imagine it would be a great way to add something to the look of the finished product of whatever you use them for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m63me5Yv1GI


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gwilki

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#1 posted 10-19-2017 02:16 PM

Interesting, for sure. Initial cost may be high since you have to buy their guns, too. I wonder how they would do in hard maple?

-- Grant Wilkinson, Ottawa ON

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#2 posted 10-19-2017 07:34 PM

I know right something really hard, how well do they penetrate. The nice thing is if they dont go all the way in then its pretty easy to sand them down I would assume.

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#3 posted 10-19-2017 10:33 PM

I question the ability of the tiny 1/8 inch pieces to hold anything. That is about like a kitchen match. If I were making the kind of joints they are making in the video, I would feel it necessary to use dozens of them per joint.

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#4 posted 10-19-2017 10:54 PM

Now this is the only real original invention in wood working in a long time. I love it..

NAILS any NAILS if they are steel, wood, titanium, or kriptonite are/were never meant to HOLD/WITHSTAND A FORCE. Nails of ANY kind are to simply to hold load bearing things in place.

-- β€œIn a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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William Shelley

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#5 posted 10-19-2017 11:00 PM



Now this is the only real original invention in wood working in a long time. I love it..

NAILS any NAILS if they are steel, wood, titanium, or kriptonite are/were never meant to HOLD/WITHSTAND A FORCE. Nails of ANY kind are to simply to hold load bearing things in place.

- richardchaos

More specifically, nails are designed for shear loads, and they do well at that. These wooden nails will probably be fine as well.

As stupid as this might sound, one thing I could see wooden nails being used for extensively is constructing pallets. Think about how many forklift tires (even solid rubber ones) have been damaged by nails on the floor from disintegrated pallets? Or, burning pallets for firewood and having to collect all the metal afterwards? etc.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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putty

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#6 posted 10-19-2017 11:25 PM

don’t think they would work for pallets, you need a nail head

-- Putty

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#7 posted 10-19-2017 11:25 PM

The wood nails are impregnated with a polyester resin, so they are stronger than wood alone. I can see an application for them, but not for any place where strength is necessary.

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#8 posted 10-20-2017 12:04 AM

Pretty interesting. Might be an alternative to bronze for some boat building jobs. Stainless doesn’t do well in salt water (crevice corrosion) and bronze is expensive.

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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#9 posted 10-20-2017 12:20 AM

I googled the things. Apparently they’re being
touted for sauna walls because they don’t transfer
heat the way nails do.

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TheFridge

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#10 posted 10-20-2017 12:48 AM

Watched a bunch of Japanese woodworking vids. They used wooden nails sometimes.

My buddy has a honey locust tree to cut down because of the thorns. Them things are about 1-2” long and I’ve read they can be used as nails when dried. Might give it a go.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#11 posted 10-20-2017 01:56 AM

I use them around my neighbourhood to keep the vampire population under control!

Sorry could not help myself…

An interesting adaptation of a early japanese skill all which came about due to the shortage of steel in Japan, especially around the WWII era, now Japanese steel is the best in the world, and their wood working skills of not using glue and metal fasteners are unique even today.

As Loren posted the use in high humidity areas would be a real application for them, then add the experience of plonking a bare bum (or something even more sensitive) on a sauna temp nail head! not what you would call a cool experience!

Actually I did not know about them so thanks for the education lesson.

Enjoy learning about woodworking its a life long experience.

-- Regards Robert

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#12 posted 10-20-2017 04:35 AM

So, how much $ is the gun? Do they come in different gauges like metal nails?

-- Andybb

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knockknock

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#13 posted 10-20-2017 03:14 PM

The old fashioned way, predrill and then hammer in.

no glue, just round toothpicks holding the half-round shelf lip on:

no glue, just shish-kabob sticks through the pins to hold the dovetail joint from separating:

Edit: A note on nailing technique. If you want nails to hold pieces together, use pairs of nails driven in at opposing angles.

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