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Forum topic by NBeener posted 02-08-2011 11:16 PM 5166 views 3 times favorited 59 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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NBeener

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02-08-2011 11:16 PM

And here they be.

From top left, going clockwise:

Forrest Woodworker I, TCG, .100” Kerf, 60t, 8” blade (Forrest)
Anti-kickback pawls (Wolfe Machinery)
RollerHead bearings (Wolfe)
Motor bearings (Wolfe)
Coiled, 14ga, 3-wire cord (motor to frame) (Grainger)
14ga, 3-wire power cord (frame to wall) (Grainger)
Gates radiator hose (will cut to aim as desired) (Amazon)
4” Forrest blade stiffener (Forrest)

That … about runs me out of excuses. Now … when I get to it, the motor comes off, comes apart, and … stuff starts getting pasted on, indiscriminately.

I’m baffled by the notion that … this saw … might actually cut some stuff, at some point in the near future !

Please. No wagering.

-- -- Neil


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Beginningwoodworker

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#1 posted 02-08-2011 11:24 PM

Yes those parts looks good, How much did that cost Neil?

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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Jamie Speirs

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#2 posted 02-08-2011 11:29 PM

Like the radiator hose idea
very clever

Have you a Dado set for it?

Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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NBeener

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#3 posted 02-08-2011 11:32 PM

Charles:

Gulp.

Forrest Woodworker I, TCG, .100” Kerf, 60t, 8” blade (Forrest) – $93.60
Anti-kickback pawls (Wolfe Machinery) – $29.98
RollerHead bearings (Wolfe) $59 for (4)
Motor bearings (Wolfe) – about $40 for (2)
Coiled, 14ga, 3-wire cord (motor to frame) (Grainger) – $25.70
14ga, 3-wire power cord (frame to wall) (Grainger) – $11.82
Gates radiator hose (will cut to aim as desired) (Amazon) – $12.84
4” Forrest blade stiffener (Forrest) – $20.00

Which looks like just under $300.

Meaning … add my $100 saw, and … it would total out at $400.

I think this represents the “Best” of the parts that could be bought for the saw. There’s a few places where I could have saved some money (, and … maybe should have !).

I looked at pictures of your model, on the OWWM site. Have you done that yet ??? You’re going to be VERY happy :-)

-- -- Neil

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NBeener

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#4 posted 02-08-2011 11:33 PM

Thanks, Jamie. Wish I could take credit, but … I’m just resourceful. It was the RAS group on the “Delphi” forum who called out that part number.

My 6” Forrest Dado King set should be a perfect match for this saw. It’s supposed to BE a “negative rake angle” set—chippers and cutters—but … I’ll go very carefully the first couple times I use it !

-- -- Neil

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grizzman

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#5 posted 02-08-2011 11:36 PM

i will believe this saw will make sawdust when i see it…LOL… if your a real wood worker, you will point that thar hose up your nose for a real wood sniffin man…....that way when your not workin the wood…your lickin your nose…wood dust boogers are the best…lol…....

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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ClayandNancy

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#6 posted 02-08-2011 11:36 PM

I’ve been searching ebay and Craigslist for a RAS, Do you think you’ll use it a lot or is it a tool to store dust? Not sure whether I want it just to restore (as if I don’t have enough to do) or that I will actually use it.

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NBeener

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#7 posted 02-08-2011 11:37 PM

Grizz ??

I will be forever in your debt.

I don’t laugh as much, or as robustly, as I used to, but you … you … YOU … can crack me up … pretty much no matter what :-)

Speaking of which, I got a guy … who’s got a guy … who can get us an eight-ball of some pretty primo Wenge dust, if you feel like partying ;-)

-- -- Neil

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Jamie Speirs

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#8 posted 02-08-2011 11:37 PM

Neil,
when I use the dado I have a pulley at the back with a weight to bring the saw back
I found that it gives a nice smooth action on wide dado cuts
It was my dentists idea

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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NBeener

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#9 posted 02-09-2011 12:09 AM

Wow.

What a GREAT idea, Jamie.

The only opinions I could find … about the “proper” RAS return spring gizmos … were pretty negative, AND … they’re $130 – 150.

But I love your idea. I think that’s how sash windows are counterbalanced. Easy, and … maybe $8 worth of parts, at our love-it-or-hate-it Harbor Freight.

Thank you !

Clay:

Here’s a recent thread, over at Sawmill Creek, asking the same (great) question:

LINK

For me … the goal was an easy, accurate crosscut saw, with wide options for dadoes.

But … as I said in the other thread … it’s probably a luxury for many folks with pretty well-equipped shops.

That said … one factor that helped ME decide is … the near certainty that this thing will end up being absolutely bulletproof, and—by all accounts—once dialed in … is NOT likely to come out of alignment for a long, long time.

Happy hunting !

-- -- Neil

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Beginningwoodworker

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#10 posted 02-09-2011 12:46 AM

Neil, I will be picking my up next week.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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oluf

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#11 posted 02-09-2011 03:51 AM

I just replaced the motor bearings in my MBF this afternoon. They were the same New Departure bearings as the origanal ones I took out, and they were made in the USA. It sure sounds sweet and cuts like a dream.

-- Nils, So. Central MI. Wood is honest.Take the effort to understand what it has to tell you before you try to change it.

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lilredweldingrod

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#12 posted 02-09-2011 09:29 AM

Neil, with all the NEW GOODIES, you are going to have to give the old girl a new paint job. We can’t have scratched up paint in the shop. That would make those new cabinets very unhappy.lol

I have no place to put one, but you are flinging a powerful hankering on me. Can’t wait to see the end result and your first project form this. I just love old arn.

Hey Grizz, go blo your nose.

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Jamie Speirs

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#13 posted 02-09-2011 10:35 AM

Rand
You aint lived until you have a RAS :)

Just be safe, if you put your fingers in front of the blade the saw could cut you. lol

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Dennisgrosen

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#14 posted 02-09-2011 12:09 PM

just be sure it ain´t you it´s cutting in the near future Neil :-O

some fine parts you had brought home to DeWaltasauRAS but I´m afraid he will be
even faster to grab the toolbelt from you now ….LOL

take care
Dennis

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Jim Bertelson

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#15 posted 02-09-2011 05:20 PM

The movement has how many jewels?

Gazookers….......I wonder about the bearings on my RAS, but I think the amount of sawing it has done, since it was in a DIYers shop (mine) for 40 years, was not too great. I don’t think I will do anything to it unless it acts up.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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