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Forum topic by rwe2156 posted 10-16-2017 02:31 PM 363 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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rwe2156

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10-16-2017 02:31 PM

I am building a trestle dining table. The top will be QSWO & the base will be walnut.

Need suggestions on dye or stain the oak in a darker color to go with the walnut.

So far, I’ve seen a reference to dying first with WB red dye than staining with oil based mahogany.

Where does grain filling fall in the process? I was thinking clear filler after staining.

What has worked for you?

Thx.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!


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#1 posted 10-16-2017 04:17 PM

Homestead has a PDF by Jeff Jewitt of recipes for QSWO. I did the sample 4 on a piece of mine and it came out great. He has videos of the process too, so search around for those.

http://homesteadfinishingproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mission_oak_6-2016.pdf

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#2 posted 10-16-2017 10:19 PM

rwe, I agree with Rich’s suggestion if any of the colors look like what you want. Here is one I have used successfully; this is the “Oak Park” version. HTH

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#3 posted 10-17-2017 12:05 AM



Here is one I have used successfully; this is the “Oak Park” version. HTH

- AandCstyle

That looks great, Art. You do beautiful work. The nice thing about Jeff’s recipes is that you can mix up the colors any way you want — those samples are only to illustrate. It’s just dye, seal, stain and topcoat. I use TransFast dyes instead of the TransTint. No reason other than it’s slightly less expensive and the powder is less likely to leak and make a mess :)

Rwe, the Seal-A-Cell does fill the grain a bit. Between that and several coats of Arm-R-Seal, you’ll get a pretty smooth finish. Not like a piano finish, but I think it looks pretty good. Experiment on test boards to see what you like. There’s no reason you can’t use more than one coat of Seal-A-Cell for a smoother finish. It sands nicely with 320 or 400 between coats.

Looking forward to seeing your table.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#4 posted 10-17-2017 12:09 AM

don’t know if this is dark enough for you, but I thought this finish came out really well:

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/337105

I used Bob Lang’s suggested A&C finish:

Day 1: apply walnut stain, let stand 15 minutes and wipe off
Day 2: apply Dark Walnut Danish Oil, let stand 15 minutes and wipe off
DY 3: apply one coat of Zinnser Amber shellac (I sprayed so I thinned it a bit and applied 3 coats).

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#5 posted 10-17-2017 02:01 AM

For the clear grain filler, I recently used Aqua Seal Grain Filler on a mahogany table top and it did a good job of filling the grain. Was easy to apply and sand as well. Nice product. You might consider trying that product on a scrap to see if it gets you the look you are after.

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#6 posted 10-17-2017 02:14 PM

Rich, not looking for something quite that dark.

CharlesA – you’re right on the money. Thx I’ll definitely be experimenting with your formula.

TungOil – On the grain filler do you apply before or after staining?

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#7 posted 10-17-2017 02:40 PM


TungOil – On the grain filler do you apply before or after staining?

- rwe2156

apply after stainging and sealer (or first coat of finish)

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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#8 posted 10-17-2017 06:36 PM

Here’s some information I compiled on stain-over-dye techniques on white oak. The sky’s the limit.
http://lumberjocks.com/pintodeluxe/blog/35559

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