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10-09-2017 06:18 PM

I am looking to pickup a new mortising machine for my expanding wood working business. I am on the fence as to whether I should get a bench top machine or a floor standing unit. So with that being said, I would like to get some opinions on the best bench top model and the best floor standing model. I plan to use this for building everything from dinning room and farm house tables, to bedroom furniture, bookcases and coffee tables.

For the bench top machines, I am looking at Rikon and Powermatic but am open to any other bench top models that you guys might recommend.

For the floor standing units I am looking at the big Grizzly G0448 or the Powermatic 719T, but I am open to any other models that you guys might recommend. Budget is up to $1,800.00.

Any suggestions?


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#1 posted 10-09-2017 07:02 PM

I had a Powermatic 719. It was a good mortiser
with a lot of leverage due to the long handle.
The clamp was good but chisels could get stuck
in the wood if the operator drilled more than
about 1/4” deep in a step. Since the clamp clamps
from from the front the work piece could get
pulled up. The solution was to drill a little, move
the chisel, drill again and so on going back and
forth.

I needed to clear some floor space so I sold it.
I mostly use dowels or loose tenons.

I have several sets of chisels if you need some.

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#2 posted 10-09-2017 07:29 PM

This video has a lot of good information that many help you decide what you want. You didn’t say if you have a preference for hollow chisel or slot mortising.

https://youtu.be/T19ea5_phDg

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#3 posted 10-09-2017 07:31 PM

If it’s for business I would go with a floor model. They have the best clamping and also an xyz table.
I have been doing some looking and it’s between the Powermatic and the Baleigh with me leaning towards the latter.
It’s been a while but for some reason I remember it having a couple extra features that the powermatic did not have.

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#4 posted 10-09-2017 07:35 PM

For the bench top machines the bigger model Rikon looks like a heck of unit, but the reviews suggest that it is under powered. I have not considered a slot mortiser. I actually don’t know any thing about them. I will start doing some research on them though.

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#5 posted 10-09-2017 07:56 PM

Depending what what you build one of these may be the answer. Thesse make motrises pretty damn quick. You do need to do need dust collection on these.

I have a Felder slot mostiser but since I got my domino i have not touched it.

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#6 posted 10-09-2017 09:31 PM

Sweet, if you are any place near northern VA, I have a Jet bench top model to sell for $100 that I never use. However, I agree with AlaskaGuy that a Domino is the way to go. They are good for everything except through mortises which I do with a router and square up with a chisel.

-- Art

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#7 posted 10-09-2017 09:48 PM



Depending what what you build one of these may be the answer. Thesse make motrises pretty damn quick. You do need to do need dust collection on these.

I have a Felder slot mostiser but since I got my domino i have not touched it.

- AlaskaGuy

Not to sidetrack the thread but what is the reason to get a 700 vs a 500? I’m really looking hard at getting one but think the 700 might be overkill and also, it’s quite a bit heavier.
Also, if going the 700 route, are there cutters now that will make any size mortise, even the smaller 500 could do?

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#8 posted 10-09-2017 09:53 PM

There is endless debate about this-or-that model
at the Festool Owners Group forum.

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#9 posted 10-09-2017 09:58 PM

Here is a Lumber Jock review

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/6882

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#10 posted 10-09-2017 10:02 PM

AKguy- good informative video, but remember WWhisperer is sponsored by Power Matic not to say that is biased
just sayin,

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#11 posted 10-09-2017 10:37 PM

I started with a Delta benchtop, and quickly outgrew it. I picked up a Jet floor standing mortiser that looks identical to the Powermatic 719, except no tilting head. Wow, was that an upgrade. It made my same old chisels cut much better. More leverage means less arm fatigue, and it can now punch square holes up to 1”.

The X-Y table is just icing on the cake.

I wouldn’t mess with the Rikon, it gets pretty bad reviews. Even when it was sold under other labels, it was never well-received. I think it was branded as a YorkCraft at one point, and Fine Woodworking magazine called it basically non functional.

I wouldn’t mess with the large Benchtop unit from General either. It has a face clamp, but no X-Y table!!! Are you kidding me, I have to loosen the clamp just to move my workpiece over a half inch, then re-clamp? I don’t think so.

As far as a benchtop unit, I would have a hard time going back to one, but the Powermatic 701 looks pretty robust.

Review of the Jet Floor Model… http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/4377

Good luck with it!

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#12 posted 10-09-2017 10:55 PM


AKguy- good informative video, but remember WWhisperer is sponsored by Power Matic not to say that is biased
just sayin,

- Desert_Woodworker


True, but over the years powermatic has enjoyed a pretty good reputation. I was not my purpose to push powermatic. I was just posted That for information purposes .

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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AlaskaGuy

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#13 posted 10-09-2017 11:04 PM

Depending what what you build one of these may be the answer. Thesse make motrises pretty damn quick. You do need to do need dust collection on these.

I have a Felder slot mostiser but since I got my domino i have not touched it.

- AlaskaGuy

Not to sidetrack the thread but what is the reason to get a 700 vs a 500? I m really looking hard at getting one but think the 700 might be overkill and also, it s quite a bit heavier.
Also, if going the 700 route, are there cutters now that will make any size mortise, even the smaller 500 could do?

- AZWoody


In my opinion it is the size/type of the work you do. How big and deep do your motrises need to be. If you you build cabinets and furniture I’d get the 500. If I was building big heavy entrance doors I use the 700.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#14 posted 10-09-2017 11:04 PM

If you have the space and patience to find
one, the old cast iron foot-operated mortisers by
companies like Oliver have a good reputation
among machine collectors. Some resemble
knee mills in that the table travels down close
to the floor.

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AlaskaGuy

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#15 posted 10-09-2017 11:09 PM



If you have the space and patience to find
one, the old cast iron foot-operated mortisers by
companies like Oliver have a good reputation
among machine collectors. Some resemble
knee mills in that the table travels down close
to the floor.

- Loren

If I could easily find one in my area I’d have give one of those a try.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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