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Forum topic by Chubbz posted 10-02-2017 05:03 PM 342 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Chubbz

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10-02-2017 05:03 PM

My wife is letting me spend a little of my hard earned cash! I’m on the path of selecting a bandsaw and a jointer.

The reason for a bandsaw, well I currently do not own one and constantly say to my self “man this would be easier with a bandsaw”. The reason for a jointer, same reason except I own a benchtop planer and somewhat tired of using planer sleds.

1) I don’t want to have to rebuy a tool for any reason. For example, buy a smaller machine and 3 years from now wish I had its bigger brother.
2) I have 1 outlet of 220V that runs my table saw, and I’m completely fine unplugging and plugging in different machines
3) Shop space is a 2 car garage with 11’ tall ceilings. Tools need to be somewhat mobile as the wife’s car occasionally is pulled in. We also use the space as a home gym and kids toy storage.
4) Budget is around $2,000.

Bandsaw:
Again, I currently do not own a bandsaw. I don’t see myself resawing anything overly large anytime soon, I’ve had the need to resaw about 8” but haven’t had much past that. I don’t want to limit myself if in 5 years if need to resaw something closer to 12”.

Grizzly G0513ANV

Laguna 1412

Open to other options as well.

Jointer:

Again, I have a benchtop planer that I use sleds that would perform tasks that a Jointer would typically do. Sleds are finicky at best and time-consuming. At first, I was going to get a Cutech 6” benchtop jointer to save shop space, Then thought I could easily see myself wanting something bigger down the line. For that very reason, I’m leaning towards an 8” jointer. I use walnut, oak, some maples, but generally, I use pine from the big box store. Running a lot of 2x which a longer bed would be beneficial.

Options:

Grizzly G0490

Grizzly G0656W

I have also found a Powermatic PM54, I believe, on Craigslist for $400

My questions are:

1) Obviously, which one to buy, I’m leaning towards the Laguna 1412 and the G0656, but the prices are so close to each other I can easily be swayed.

2) Do I really need such a big bandsaw and or jointer? Will a smaller 14” work and upgrade to riser blocks when needed.

3) Time of year to purchase – I’m thinking Christmas is the best time and it’s quickly approaching. Any thoughts?


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Desert_Woodworker

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#1 posted 10-02-2017 05:52 PM

I like and reccomend Laguna products- But you will hear from others.

-- Desert_Woodworker

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CharlesA

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#2 posted 10-02-2017 06:17 PM

I’m sure some would not agree with me, but here goes:

A jointer: all that matters is solid construction and that you have the size you want. If the tables will stay coplanar and you have adequate width for your work, you’re good. Used is great. Helical heads could be a plus, but the basic machine hasn’t changed in decades.

Bandsaw: Lot more variation here. I’d definitely look at new and resaw capacity. Lots of difference between a Delta 14 and one of the new steel frame saws: resaw, dust collection, lighting, blade capacity, table, fence, etc.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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brtech

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#3 posted 10-02-2017 06:50 PM

I’d look for used in a planer. I got a really nice Jet for $250 that’s been great.

On the bandsaw, I have the Laguna 1412 and I think it’s terrific.

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#4 posted 10-02-2017 07:10 PM

The nice thing about the jointer is that you can save a little money initially (if that’s a factor) by purchasing one with a traditional straight knife setup, and upgrading to a helical head at a later date if desired. I know there’s a lot about the pro’s/con’s on this, but I’ll just say that I replaced mine, and my life got a lot easier.

As for the bandsaw, were I in your shoes, I’d probably be going the 14” rout with a riser block. The real pain in selecting any one bandsaw is blade changes and guide reallignment when you switch operations, so you may want to consider that when selecting a machine. I wish I could find an inexpensive conversion for my 14” Grizzly to swap out the guides with tool-less ones, but haven’t come across them yet (and don’t want to spend over half it’s value on something as nice as the Carter’s).

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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Chubbz

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#5 posted 10-02-2017 08:10 PM


As for the bandsaw, were I in your shoes, I d probably be going the 14” rout with a riser block. The real pain in selecting any one bandsaw is blade changes and guide reallignment when you switch operations, so you may want to consider that when selecting a machine. I wish I could find an inexpensive conversion for my 14” Grizzly to swap out the guides with tool-less ones, but haven t come across them yet (and don t want to spend over half it s value on something as nice as the Carter s).

- Dustin

I agree, the 14” and add the riser block when needed seems like the better plan. I don’t think I’ll be doing any heavy resawing that would require the 2HP motor. Those extra 3 inches in the throat might be beneficial? Again I don’t want to have to rebuy another tool, but at the same time, I don’t want to spend an extra $400 or so if I don’t need to.

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d38

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#6 posted 10-02-2017 11:11 PM

I’ve used jointers since high school, and agree with others—enough width and length do support your stock and stays aligned is all you need. Mine is a 6” 48” long and works well. If a nice used one is available, give it a serious look.

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