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Forum topic by marc_rosen posted 10-01-2017 01:39 AM 2594 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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marc_rosen

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10-01-2017 01:39 AM

Hey Gang,
Today I scratched my cherry dining room table top while being careless. It was finished 5 years ago using Waterlox. I’ve since been using Arm-R-Seal for the majority of my finishing and wanted to know if anyone here has applied A-R-S on top of Waterlox. Any chance I will see something undesirable?
All replies are welcome and thanks in advance. Marc

-- Windsurfing, Woodworking, Weaving, and Woodducks. "Most woodworkers are usually boring holes"


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 10-01-2017 02:38 AM

If in doubt use a coat of 1 lb cut of dewaxed shellac it makes any two finishes work together when put in between .

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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TungOil

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#2 posted 10-01-2017 03:09 AM

why not just repair the Waterlox? One of the benefits of Waterlox is repairability. sand the scratch out with 320 and recoat.

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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Rich

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#3 posted 10-01-2017 04:04 AM


why not just repair the Waterlox? One of the benefits of Waterlox is repairability. sand the scratch out with 320 and recoat.

- TungOil

+1

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#4 posted 10-01-2017 12:37 PM

Compatibility wont be an issue, however ,Waterlox does yellow pretty bad, my concern is if you sand the scratch out and use Arm R Seal your going to see a color difference, . If it were me I would try dribbling some water lox into just the scratch to build it up. I am assuming here that the scratch isnt deep , but just a finish issue .
Once level then clean and light scuff the top and do a full coat of finish.

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#5 posted 10-01-2017 02:20 PM

Arm-R-Seal over shellac over Waterlox is pretty much my “standard” finish.

When I started doing this, I had a ton of Waterlox (or, at least a couple of gallons) because we’d used it on our floor. I was worried about compatibility, as well, and decided on a wash-coat of shellac (1 lb) before the Arm-R-Seal. It probably doesn’t matter, but it has become standard for me.

On wood that is ACTUALLY blotchy, I start with a very skimpy wash coat of shellac (about 0.5 lb). Then Waterlox, to pop the grain – which ALWAYS works. Then I use a 1 lb. shellac to tweak color (and seal, though I’m not convinced that’s necessary). Then the Arm-R-Seal.

HOWEVER, do what Charles said: fill the scratch with Waterlox before applying Arm-R-Seal (if desired). Waterlox definitely DOES yellow.

That is, I wouldn’t just fill the scratch with Arm-R-Seal, because that’s what I had on-hand.

Are you adding a coat of Arm-R-Seal to the whole piece to improve finish durability? I’m sure Arm-R-Seal will do that, but one scratch in 5 years doesn’t seem too bad.

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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#6 posted 10-01-2017 05:41 PM

I’ve used arm-r-seal directly over waterlox, no problems at all. In the future, I plan on just using straight arm-r-seal.

-- Allen, Colorado (Instagram @bobasaurus_woodworking)

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