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09-30-2017 11:11 AM

I’ve working on buying this Powermatic 8” jointer and i’m at $800 with him. I’m going to have to rent a trailer and drive 2.5 hours to pick up. Is this worth it? What should I look for for red lights? Looks like it has some surface rust but looks good otherwise. Will this take a helical head? Thoughts?

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#1 posted 09-30-2017 02:44 PM

That is absolutely not a good deal IMO. That is a dovetail ways jointer that looks like it’s been pretty roughly handled.

There’s not a lot of moving parts in jointers, so there’s no real durability concerns, but $800 is very steep for what is ultimately exactly the same as the 1990s Taiwanese imports that are exact copies of that jointer and routinely sell for half that price or less.

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#2 posted 09-30-2017 02:58 PM

Thanks. I keep asking him for pictures and he sends me one picture of a rusted pulley and says it been used for 5 hours and has been sitting in a shed. I’ll pass at this price. What would be appropriate for this unit? $400? I guess I will pass on this unit.

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#3 posted 09-30-2017 03:47 PM


I guess I will pass on this unit.

- noone


I think that’s the correct decision.

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#4 posted 09-30-2017 04:11 PM

That looks like a major “project”. Definite pass.

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#5 posted 09-30-2017 04:39 PM

That looks like a major “project”. Definite pass.
- William Shelley

I’d pass simply because of the price and the fact that it’s 2.5 hours away and would require the additional cost of renting a trailer. But I fail to see anything that would indicate it being a “major project” – quite the opposite actually.

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#6 posted 09-30-2017 04:43 PM

At half the price yes because it’s a good brand but I would double check its condition if for some reason they drop there price.

Edit
not sure where you live but if you live in an area that this could have been in a flood pass altogether.

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#7 posted 09-30-2017 04:56 PM

Powermatic tools will generally bring a higher price than most other brands from my experience. Here are a few reference points that might help you decide if this is a good deal or not.

A new straight knife 8” PM60 runs about $1900+shipping.

When I bought my PM60 earlier this year I scoured CL for months looking for a decent machine. I finally found one, straight knife like the one above and it sold for $750 in just a few hours (it was cleaner than the example above however).

Based on my discussions with PM tech support, the helical head can be interchanged for the straight head, they were in stock earlier this year when I checked but the cost is high, about $800 if I remember correctly.

I would not shy away from a dovetail bed machine. Every Bridgeport mill I ever used had dovetail ways and they were accurate to well under 0.001”.

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noone

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#8 posted 09-30-2017 05:29 PM

I asked for pictures of the motor and other close up pictures and he sent me this 1 picture. I’m giving him another chance and have asked him for more pictures. I’m thinking this will only be worth a 2.5 hour drive at $600. Yes, these are 2k new today.

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#9 posted 09-30-2017 05:54 PM

They’re 2k new, sure, but again, jointers have very few moving parts, so provided the thing is made halfway competently, the PM60 copies are just as good as the original. I say this as someone who owns both a PM60 and a ‘90s Taiwan import. They’re the same machine.

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noone

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#10 posted 09-30-2017 05:56 PM


They re 2k new, sure, but again, jointers have very few moving parts, so provided the thing is made halfway competently, the PM60 copies are just as good as the original. I say this as someone who owns both a PM60 and a 90s Taiwan import. They re the same machine.

- jonah

So I can just get an 8” Grizzly new and it’s essentially the same as this? A jointer is not even a must have for me since I have a planer I’ve been getting by with.

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Gilley23

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#11 posted 09-30-2017 06:58 PM

That’s not surface rust on that pulley, that’s pitted.

The fact that he won’t send you more pictures is very troubling and I wouldn’t buy from him just on principal alone.

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#12 posted 09-30-2017 07:20 PM


They re 2k new, sure, but again, jointers have very few moving parts, so provided the thing is made halfway competently, the PM60 copies are just as good as the original. I say this as someone who owns both a PM60 and a 90s Taiwan import. They re the same machine.

- jonah

So I can just get an 8” Grizzly new and it’s essentially the same as this? A jointer is not even a must have for me since I have a planer I’ve been getting by with.

- noone


That may be true but I’d bet that one you get a stand alone jointer you won’t want to go back.

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#13 posted 09-30-2017 07:35 PM

When people who are trying to sell so e thing don’t give you details like you ask, it gives me a feeling that somethings fishy. Then again, some people just aren’t very smart about these things… Wish washy advice I know…

AlaskaGuy is right, I never thought I really needed a jointed either but dang, I like having one now even tho it’s a 6” bench style. It does have the helical style cutting head though which works really nice. I think it was reviewed on LJ now that I think about it.

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noone

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#14 posted 09-30-2017 08:05 PM

Yeah it’s definitely fishy that he won’t take more pictures of it. I think he’s probably just lazy, but it’s not worth driving 2.5 hours for. I told him good luck with the sale. I’ll keep looking for a local one. Thanks for the feedback guys.

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#15 posted 10-01-2017 12:08 AM

I wouldn’t have a problem with the condition of
the machine but the price is high for a machine
in that condition.

Powermatic at one time had some advantages
over rival producers like Delta in that they would
age “green iron” castings longer before machining
them. Thus the tables could be expected to be
a little flatter. These days with Powermatic
production moved to Asia…

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