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Forum topic by PPK posted 09-29-2017 09:49 PM 2341 views 0 times favorited 55 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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PPK

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09-29-2017 09:49 PM

I get a kick out of the things that people are interested in and what sets off a good animated discussion on Lumberjocks.

Want to get daily top 3? Build a drum sander. Or a shop accessory. Or a shop tool. Some of the nicest actual PROJECTS don’t get hardly any views. I suppose it makes sense, a lot of people want to see how others have overcome challenges by making jigs or making their shop more efficient. Example: I built a more or less simple drill press table that didn’t take much time. 900+ views. One of my older, and much more impressive projects (Fancy Bookcase) only has 750 views…

I’ve also noticed how much style comes and goes… live edge is huge right now! Come on, where’s the Queen Ann furniture these days?? Lol

Want a forum that has a gazillion responses and perhaps a fight? Post something asking what the “best” tool is… Perhaps a topic about how your Festool is the best. Or ask what wood finish is the best to use. There are as many opinions out there as there are LJ’s… and a lot of the opinions are right, not just one!

Overall, I’m really impressed with how much a person can learn if he’s willing to just read and take the advice with a grain of salt. There’s a wealth of information here, that’s for sure.

I know after joining LJ’s, I’ve spent a ton of time on here… and I don’t think too much of it was wasted!

What are your musings?

Edit: I have no idea why certain terms are hyperlinking, I didn’t intend for them to do so… so don’t pay attention to the links

-- Pete


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Ron Aylor

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#1 posted 09-29-2017 11:19 PM

I’ve also noticed how much style comes and goes… live edge is huge right now! Come on, where s the Queen Ann furniture these days?? Lol

- PPK

Might William & Mary and/or Louis XIII/Elizabethan-ish do? I too have enjoyed this site over the last year. I never get into the equipment discussions for obvious reasons, but I do like to see what other folks are building and how. You are right about those posts that get one’s dander up … they are interesting to a point. Once they get too carried away I tend to jump ship before the name calling starts! BUT … thanks to Cricket … they don’t last too long!

-- Ron in Lilburn, Georgia.  Knowing how to use a tool is more important than the tool in and of itself.

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caboxmaker

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#2 posted 09-29-2017 11:25 PM

My thoughts. Bunch of old, sensitive guys arguing over things that won’t matter the next day. Too much blocking going on. Too many guys getting their panties in a bunch over nothing. Too much running to mom with hurt feelings or self righteous indignation. Do I have other thoughts? I do…just ask me.

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pontic

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#3 posted 09-30-2017 12:17 AM

What about good old Art Deco or French Provencial or…...What am I talking about I just build what will do the job and look nice as I vision it.
Oh shoot I think I’ll need a jig for this thread.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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#4 posted 09-30-2017 12:37 AM


My thoughts. Bunch of old, sensitive guys arguing over things that won t matter the next day. Too much blocking going on. Too many guys getting their panties in a bunch over nothing. Too much running to mom with hurt feelings or self righteous indignation. Do I have other thoughts? I do…just ask me.

- caboxmaker

Old, sensitive guys??? Just who the hell do you think you are?

LOL, sorry, couldn’t resist. Turning sarcasm switch off (for now).

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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Cricket

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#5 posted 09-30-2017 02:25 AM



Edit: I have no idea why certain terms are hyperlinking, I didn t intend for them to do so… so don t pay attention to the links

- PPK

That shouldn’t happening for members. I will send in a report now.

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woodbutcherbynight

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#6 posted 09-30-2017 02:31 AM

I have found some of these forum topics of color shall we say to be highly entertaining…...............

LOL

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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oldnovice

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#7 posted 09-30-2017 04:38 AM

What I really like about this site is it’s diversity (is that a bad word today?) from good or bad comments, to people from all over the world, to projects from simple to complex, many different shop helpers, and the long distance friends spun from the interchages!
Sorry, this was way too long but to me it’s my Facebook!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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PPK

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#8 posted 10-01-2017 01:42 AM


That shouldn t happening for members. I will send in a report now.

- Cricket

Thank you Cricket

-- Pete

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PPK

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#9 posted 10-01-2017 01:44 AM



What I really like about this site is it s diversity (is that a bad word today?) from good or bad comments, to people from all over the world, to projects from simple to complex, many different shop helpers, and the long distance friends spun from the interchages!
Sorry, this was way too long but to me it s my Facebook!

- oldnovice

Same here – I don’t have Facebook… and hey, there’s no potential “election meddling” or other stuff going on here like on FB and twitter!

-- Pete

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shipwright

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#10 posted 10-01-2017 04:26 PM

It is what it is I guess but on the topic of sorting advice, when in doubt do a projects check.
There are certainly people here who give valid advice but prefer not to post projects but generally a look at what the “advisor” posts in his / her projects will give you an idea of their experience / abilities.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#11 posted 10-01-2017 05:46 PM

I have never posted a project and I have good reasons for it. I won’t say I never will but I am very hesitant. The single biggest reason is it feels like I am showing out or bragging on myself. Most of my work is just mediocre, especially when compared to the best of the craftsmen on this website. Why would I want to show it off? I see projects done by other members that are awful. Yet, I seldom see much useful constructive criticism. People are afraid to tell the truth. That is the only thing I want. I don’t want anyone to try to make me feel good about a crummy project. A final reason I don’t publish projects is that I am selfish in some cases. I make money off some of our original designs that were difficult to develop but easy to copy.

I post photographs in threads just every once in a while. The reason is someone is asking a question that I might be able to answer through example rather than description. I am happy to share techniques I have learned, or failures I have experienced, through pictures.

Please tell me why I should post photos of projects. I could share pictures of hundreds of projects I have done in the past but it just doesn’t seem like it would be useful. Right now, my shop work is limited to just a few things I agreed to do some time ago. I am about to move into a new shop and the one I have now is such a mess it is almost unusable.

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Rich

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#12 posted 10-01-2017 06:15 PM

I think it’s flawed to assume someone who has not posted projects is unable to give good advice, or even to give their advice less credence than any other. Like Art, some people simply choose not to. Of course, a nice portfolio of quality work says a lot about the person’s abilities. I build lots of things that I don’t do project posts for. Sometimes it’s too much of a hassle, other times it’s because, even though it’s a nice piece, it’s just one like many others and for the most part, who’s gonna care?

I do just fine reading what folks have to say and figuring out if they have a clue. That might not work so well for beginners, but I have managed over time to get a good read on various members’ skill set and whether their advice is worth considering.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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woodbutcherbynight

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#13 posted 10-01-2017 07:12 PM

By having projects in your portfolio you have that reference for those seeking knowledge or ideas. We cannot track how many have seen one of our projects and been inspired to make something. No Daily Top 3 in this category. Can’t tell you how many PM’s I have gotten over the years saying great idea thanks I used it to make this or that. Moments of satisfaction the world never sees or hears about.

Like Rich and others I do not post every project I do. While I understand the bragging or stroking ego thing, in the time I have been here I have never seen someone brag about having XX amount of Daily Top 3 or Editors Choice awards. Not to say it has not happened just that I have not seen it. Nor do I live on the internet every hour of the day… LOL

I would agree that constructive criticism is not often done. More than once that I have seen some offered a disagreement has ensued. Being a public forum how do we know that this has discouraged people from offering it?

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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RobS888

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#14 posted 10-01-2017 07:42 PM


By having projects in your portfolio you have that reference for those seeking knowledge or ideas. We cannot track how many have seen one of our projects and been inspired to make something. No Daily Top 3 in this category. Can t tell you how many PM s I have gotten over the years saying great idea thanks I used it to make this or that. Moments of satisfaction the world never sees or hears about.

Like Rich and others I do not post every project I do. While I understand the bragging or stroking ego thing, in the time I have been here I have never seen someone brag about having XX amount of Daily Top 3 or Editors Choice awards. Not to say it has not happened just that I have not seen it. Nor do I live on the internet every hour of the day… LOL

I would agree that constructive criticism is not often done. More than once that I have seen some offered a disagreement has ensued. Being a public forum how do we know that this has discouraged people from offering it?

- woodbutcherbynight


I have seen bragging about the number of views. It seemed to go to the poster’s head.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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Desert_Woodworker

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#15 posted 10-01-2017 08:40 PM

Re: ignoring the Blue links- I was currious so I clicked; Top 3

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It didn’t go to LumberJocks :)

-- Desert_Woodworker

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