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Mrholefixitman

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09-26-2017 05:01 PM

Topic tags/keywords: made in usa

I’m purchasing items for my shop and I am frustrated that our market has dictated that items should be made cheaply abroad. Every one of us is responsible for this. What are your thoughts?


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woodyjoe

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#1 posted 09-26-2017 05:49 PM

Made in the usa is getting harder by the day. Companies like Black and Decker buy up all the other tool companies and move the manufacturing over seas. Milwaukee sold out and is owned by the Chinese. The only way you can build a shop with American made is by using older model used tools. I bought a bunch of Porter Cable tools in 2000-2001 that were all made in Tennessee. My stationary tools are Ridgid, pre china. Made here by Emerson electric before they sent their manufacturing over seas. Good luck finding what you want.

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CharlesA

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#2 posted 09-26-2017 06:10 PM

I try to support local people (stores, products, etc.), but the U.S. economy is highly global. U.S. companies prosper fro overseas manufacturing, and we still have companies where exports/global sales are huge (Microsoft and Coke come to mind). My guess is that if you are were committed to U.S.-only technology, you wouldn’t have been able to write this post.

For my local is a factor, but the biggest factor is the quality/price.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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Mrholefixitman

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#3 posted 09-26-2017 07:12 PM

It’s a little disappointing. I wonder if our current political climate will force a change. It would be nice if consumer demand forced the change instead.

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CharlesA

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#4 posted 09-26-2017 07:17 PM



It’s a little disappointing. I wonder if our current political climate will force a change. It would be nice if consumer demand forced the change instead.

- Mrholefixitman

When that $125 table saw at Home Depot goes up to $400 in order to be made in USA, the reality will dawn.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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TheFridge

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#5 posted 09-26-2017 08:04 PM

Yeah but it’s kinda already the reality. If you want to buy a new quality handplane it’s gonna cost. The odds of getting a bad woodriver plane are much much greater than getting a bad LN or such.

Quality does cost and money drives the market. If dirt cheap wasn’t available people would look a lot harder at the quality aspect before spending but because of the cheap options nowadays many people buy the throwaway stuff as opposed to long term because it probably works for them. It seems to me the market is driven mostly by the homeowner nowadays as opposed to the craft. Hence, cheaper disposable option.

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bigblockyeti

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#6 posted 09-26-2017 09:50 PM

Buying old iron can mitigate some of this but you better be ready to work on them as well as woodworking. There are deals to be had and there are plug & play machines (for more $$ of course) that needs only maintenance. Labor simply is cheaper in many other parts of the world and while the old saying “you get what you pay for” still holds true for the most part, you can get high quality stuff made overseas and you can also get junk made in the USA.

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Mrholefixitman

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#7 posted 09-27-2017 04:19 PM

Good info guys. Thanks

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pontic

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#8 posted 09-27-2017 04:30 PM

Northfield tools are still made here. $$$$$

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woodbutcherbynight

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#9 posted 09-27-2017 06:33 PM


Northfield tools are still made here. $$$$$

- pontic

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ WOW Glad I was sitting down and had a beer handy when I went and checked on the price.

For a tablesaw #4 tilting arbor variety. $ 15,260.00 LINK

I am all for quality and such but talk about break the bank?? WOW I was thinking $4000 or so…........

Time for another beer.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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mramseyISU

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#10 posted 09-27-2017 06:58 PM

For me Made in the USA is certainly a factor but not the only one and not just with tools. Try finding a pair of made in the USA boots. I just bought a pair of Danner hiking boots. It was a $250 premium to buy a pair made in the USA vs a pair of Danners made in Asia somewhere. I bought the Made in the USA ones but I thought long and hard about it. The economy is global now, nobody is un-ringing that bell long term no matter who is in elected office so you might as well learn to adapt.

-- Trust me I'm an engineer.

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TravisH

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#11 posted 09-27-2017 08:13 PM

I by the best quality I can afford. I have never looked to see where the product is coming from as it isn’t a variable I am concerned about.

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DrDirt

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#12 posted 09-27-2017 09:36 PM

If you are going to demand Made in USA… you are going to be getting a lot of Used equipment.

Lots of good stuff from Japan and Europe too though.

Focus on “good stuff”.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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woodbutcherbynight

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#13 posted 09-28-2017 03:34 AM

I have Ferrari taste but I am on a Diet Low Sodium Beer budget…......

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#14 posted 09-28-2017 01:23 PM



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ WOW Glad I was sitting down and had a beer handy when I went and checked on the price.

For a tablesaw #4 tilting arbor variety. $ 15,260.00 LINK

I am all for quality and such but talk about break the bank?? WOW I was thinking $4000 or so…........

Time for another beer.

- woodbutcherbynight

Yeah, but if you were running an industrial manufacturing shop, it’s not so bad. Northfield isn’t, and never really was, targeted at a home/hobby/one person shop.

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DrDirt

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#15 posted 09-28-2017 04:26 PM


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ WOW Glad I was sitting down and had a beer handy when I went and checked on the price.

For a tablesaw #4 tilting arbor variety. $ 15,260.00 LINK

I am all for quality and such but talk about break the bank?? WOW I was thinking $4000 or so…........

Time for another beer.

- woodbutcherbynight

Yeah, but if you were running an industrial manufacturing shop, it s not so bad. Northfield isn t, and never really was, targeted at a home/hobby/one person shop.

- Mosquito


It is a 14-18 inch saw weighing 1700 pounds.

So not exactly being put on a cheap mobile base in a 1 car garage. :-)

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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