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09-23-2017 05:38 AM

I’m building a jewelry storage cabinet that will hang on the wall. The cabinet box is made out of 5/8” baltic birch, no face frame. The door to the cabinet is wider than the box by 1/2” on each side. It’s a frame and panel door 3/4” thick frame.

Does a cabinet hinge for this exist? Will a frameless full overlay hinge like this work?

I’m attaching a couple of screenshots of my sketchup file for further clarification.


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#1 posted 09-23-2017 05:56 AM

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#2 posted 09-24-2017 06:24 PM

Sorry for the delay but I had to do some research. That is the same hinge I use but in the 120 degrees opening instead of 110 degree so that hinge in 110 or120 degree opening will work. What I didn’t know what which base plate to use for you particular application beings how you have a 5/8 box with 1/2 inch over lay.

If you use the Blum number 175H9160 base plate and either 110 or 120 degree hinge shown in you link you should be good to go.

Hinge Plate:: https://www.cabinetparts.com/p/blum-hinges-european-cabinet-hinges-BH175H9160

Hinge:: https://www.cabinetparts.com/p/blum-hinges-european-cabinet-hinges-BH71T5550

These prices are much better that in your link :)

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#3 posted 09-24-2017 06:42 PM

Perhaps a piano hinge would be a better solution for a 53” long door. But, if the door is 1/2” wider than the frame how will it open beyond 90 degrees?

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#4 posted 09-24-2017 06:45 PM



Perhaps a piano hinge would be a better solution for a 53” long door. But, if the door is 1/2” wider than the frame how will it open beyond 90 degrees?

- Ripper70


Those hinges are often use on doors bigger that 53”

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#5 posted 09-24-2017 06:47 PM

AG, the door hangs over the cabinet 1/2”

He needs the Blum Compact 33 hinge with the 1 1/8” overlay plate.
This will give you 110 deg opening

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#6 posted 09-24-2017 06:58 PM



AG, the door hangs over the cabinet 1/2”

He needs the Blum Compact 33 hinge with the 1 1/8” overlay plate.
This will give you 110 deg opening

- jbay

You probably know better that I. I haven’t used the compact hinges.
Thanks for the heads up.
This is where I got my information.

http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/cabinetmaking.pl?read=814201

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#7 posted 09-24-2017 07:40 PM

BTW this is a good example of why you pick out you hardware before you build your project.

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#8 posted 09-25-2017 01:13 PM


AG, the door hangs over the cabinet 1/2”

He needs the Blum Compact 33 hinge with the 1 1/8” overlay plate.
This will give you 110 deg opening

- jbay

I should have thought about the hinges before starting the project but unfortunately I didn’t. So it says that the compact 33 hinge is for face frame cabinets, even though my cabinet is frameless I can still use this hinge?

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#9 posted 09-26-2017 09:47 PM

So it says that the compact 33 hinge is for face frame cabinets, even though my cabinet is frameless I can still use this hinge?

- LearningAsIGo

Yes, you can. The 1 1/8” overlay plate is made to mount to the “edge” of the face frame, which corresponds to the inside surface of your carcase. Remember that the hinge will hold the door about 3/16” off the face of your cabinet, so use a fat bumper on the “latch” side.

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#10 posted 09-26-2017 10:06 PM

Yes, the effective overlay is 1 1/8” – beyond the reach of traditional euro hinges.

Compact 33 is okay, but be aware that it will hold the door about 3/16” proud of the carcass – A pretty big gap when viewed side on.

There are newer soft close versions (38N, 39C), but I don’t see 1 1/8” overlay in those.

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#11 posted 10-05-2017 02:30 PM

I think I’m going to cut the door down so that it doesn’t hang over the box on the hinge side.

I’m still unsure as to how to figure out what kind of hinge I can use. Is this just considered a full overlay? Or do I need to find a hinge that specifically has a 5/8” overlay?

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#12 posted 10-05-2017 02:43 PM

5/8” Overlay falls well within the range of a typical euro hinge. There are many to choose from and most all are pretty good.

Whichever one you choose, take a look at the mfg spec sheet to determine which base plate and drill spacing you will need to get your desired overlay.

I noticed in your link that a pair of hinges is over $17. That seems like a lot of money for these as we pay around $6.50 for this same pair wholesale.

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#13 posted 10-05-2017 03:11 PM



BTW this is a good example of why you pick out you hardware before you build your project.

- AlaskaGuy

Thanks for the heads up. I’m just getting ready to slap doors on an in-shop project and have a butt load of euro-hinges laying around (scavenged from cabinets heading for the dumpster). I should pull them out and THEN make the doors!!!

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#14 posted 10-06-2017 01:28 PM


I noticed in your link that a pair of hinges is over $17. That seems like a lot of money for these as we pay around $6.50 for this same pair wholesale.

- DS

That link is for 2 of them and free shipping. So like $8.50 per hinge.

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#15 posted 10-06-2017 02:27 PM

$3.25 per hinge and baseplate = $6.50 per pair…. so yes, expensive.
The self closing ones are about half that expensive.

EDIT: I guess if you figure retail is a 100% markup, plus shipping, then $17.50 may sound reasonable.

Myself, I would look for another source.

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