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a1Jim

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09-21-2017 04:22 PM

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Hi friends
I’ve been trying to create some more accessible storage, I have 14’ high ceilings and two sets of 20” deep shelves the lowest being about 8’ off the floor. Now that I have had a foot problem I’m staying of ladders so I thought I could make some pull-down units that could keep up me off ladders, bringing the items stored to perhaps the 6ft level. I saw this kitchen pull-down unit that is pretty slick but it’s size and cost doesn’t make sense for me I would need a larger unit I could build without expensive hardware.
I was hoping someone had already built a unit like I need or some of the design geniuses could help. Folks have suggested pull down from the ceiling storage but my ceiling is too high and the things I need to store are too large for that plus my ceiling has lots of jigs and lights that would prohibit that kind of application, others suggest wall shelves, I don’t have any additional wall space left either.
Thanks for any ideas
Jim

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#1 posted 09-21-2017 04:26 PM

Hey Jim, how about a hoist system like used in garages for bikes and truck toppers. It would hold the units up out of the way and let you lower them when needed.

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#2 posted 09-21-2017 04:33 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Dan but I’m not quite sure there’s enough ceiling space to set something like that, but I can think about it , it’s something I hadn’t considered before.

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#3 posted 09-21-2017 04:46 PM

I looked at that video, that is a cool system, but I would imagine quite expensive.

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#4 posted 09-21-2017 05:27 PM



I looked at that video, that is a cool system, but I would imagine quite expensive.

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#5 posted 09-21-2017 05:35 PM

that’s why I said it was too expensive and too small

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#6 posted 09-21-2017 05:35 PM

Maybe you just got to much “stuff”. Time of a garage sale.

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#7 posted 09-21-2017 05:42 PM



Maybe you just got to much “stuff”. Time of a garage sale.

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#8 posted 09-21-2017 05:48 PM

I bought some pull-down units from Lee Valley
some years ago for a job. We didn’t end up
using them because you lose quite a bit of usable
space front-to-back. The rack capacity was
only 8” deep or something for mounting in a
12” deep upper cabinet.

In engineering something like that you would
need to consider springs or gas shocks. Also
the length of the arms to make a pull-down that
has much depth and still clears the shelf below
might be pretty long. In short, I think scaling
up cabinet pull-downs might be a frustrating
exercise.

Another solution which would be quicker to
figure out I think would be to use hoists for the
upper shelves and convert the lower shelves into
roll-out units. Still, considering the work and
expense of such a solution and the hassle of
getting upper-shelf access it doesn’t sound very
attractive to me.

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woodsmithshop

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#9 posted 09-21-2017 06:11 PM

you have the same problem we all have Jim, not enough room, your best bet would be to add on to your building. it would be magic to find more room in my shop. lol

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#10 posted 09-21-2017 06:25 PM

Jim,

What are you storing? Is it used often or infrequently? If it’s infrequent then that’s the farthest away. How heavy is it? Maybe putting heavier stuff on the bottom? I built a step system that was made out of construction material ( I have too much of that) to put a heavy piece of equipment in my rafters and then disassembled it. Oh yeah depending on how many and how much some sort of storage reference so you don’t forget what you put up there. LOL!

I’m localizing general items in areas and using labels when the items are hidden from view as I loose stuff all the time. Not laughing here! GRRRR!

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#11 posted 09-21-2017 06:38 PM

In the other thread, you described yourself as a hoarder. Maybe it’s time to think about passing along some of the things you’ve “collected” rather spending energy towards more and more storage. Are you using all this stuff? People like to joke that you can’t have too many tools, but you can have too much stuff. Is this stuff working for you or are you working for it.

But to answer the question, You could have a lift that boosts you up in the air but that will take up valuable floor space. The commercial drop down shelves are going to cost. If you can weld and have access to cheap steel, you could fabricate some drop down shelves using springs as counterweights. Or add on to the existing building if possible.

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#12 posted 09-21-2017 06:51 PM

Perhaps you could use a rolling staircase. It would eliminate the need for climbing a ladder and would allow you to reach items that are stored higher up off the floor. They come in a wide variety of heights with 3, 4, 5 or more steps depending on how high you need to reach. Certainly allot safer than a ladder and a one-time expense that might just solve your problem and avoid a complicated and costly build.

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#13 posted 09-21-2017 07:08 PM

Looked at the video. Problem with high storage is the arms and depth requied to fold

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#14 posted 09-21-2017 07:10 PM

Mine was a wooden version of the rolling staircase.

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#15 posted 09-21-2017 07:12 PM

AK guy I do but even when I sell a good amount I still need the space

Blasphamy I tell you!!!! Ha Ha

yes, you’re right Loren about the engineering aspect of it ,I was hoping if designed right I may be able to push it up perhaps with an assistance of a pole.I;m really only thinking about the shelves that are 8’ up the upper ones will be for seldom used Items.

Actually, Tom, I’m following your advice from an earlier post about having most used items easiest to get to, which I’ve tried to make as my practice in the past.

Rich to clarify, I called myself a tool hoarder to be dramatic, probably a tool nut is more accurate. The expanding platform type mechanism you’re talking about is cool but with this old guy, I would need a body and helmet airbag system given my balance isn’t what it used to be. If the shelves did the reverse that would be cool but I’m not much of a welder, but I could farm that part if I came up with a design.

Ripper that would be great but my space between benches, tools etc. is not wide enough for that rolling staircase and if there was I don’t have any open floor space I could store it when not in use.

I really appreciate all of your suggestions.

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