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Hermit

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09-20-2017 07:45 PM

I’ve just started installing drawer faces to my shop cabinets. The first two fit perfectly with no adjustments.
The second 2 drawers I cannot get the reveal/adjustment set correctly.

As you can see above, the top of the drawer is tight to the face frames on the right side with a small gap on the left.

Above, on the right side of the drawer faces I have a fairly good, acceptable reveal.

Above, you can see the gap on the left side of the drawer faces, with a slightly larger reveal.
I have tried moving both sides forward and back to get the reveal even.
Suggestions on how to adjust? This is my first cabinet build. I did look on YouTube but couldn’t find any helpful info.
These are 14” full extension slides.

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#1 posted 09-20-2017 09:47 PM

If you look at the mounting holes in the cabinet member of the slides, you will see some of the holes are elongated.
Some are elongated vertically and others horizontally.

If you start with screws only in these elongated holes, you can loosen them to make adjustments within the slots – loosening and tightening as needed.

Once you have it where you want, then add screws in the round holes to lock it in and done.

This adjusts for up/down and in/out

To adjust the fronts Left and Right is another matter and depends on your drawer type.

  • If you have drawer Sub-fronts and an applied front, usually, there is an over-sized hole in the drawer sub-front to allow Left and Right adjustment and some kind of truss head screw that covers the large hole. This can also give some up/down adjustment as well.

*If you have an integrated front, you can use shims and/or the tabbed mounting holes in the cabinet members to space the guide over. You would have to bend the tabs outward with pliers, or some other tool. This only works if the cabinet opening has room to move the whole assembly over. You may end up grinding away some of the face frame on the opposite side to allow it to move if the adjustment is more extreme. (Not usually necessary though) There is usually about 1/16” of play in the guide itself that this can work with. It could also be adjusted by grinding the side of the drawer and recessing the drawer box member slightly – again, an extreme case.

Undermount guides are usually easier to adjust – just sayin’.
Good luck.

EDIT: After re-reading your post, I see that my “general” adjustments may not help you. However, if you bend the tabs out only at the left rear of the drawer, it may push the drawer box over like you want. This could be an issue of an out of square drawer box, or cabinet. Still, not insurmountable.

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#2 posted 09-20-2017 11:15 PM

“This could be an issue of an out of square drawer box, or cabinet. Still, not insurmountable.” I agree as a former cabinet maker. Welcome to drawer allignment. My guess; shim the left – rear slide a touch but you may have to then shim the right- front slde.
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#3 posted 09-21-2017 02:04 AM

Both above are spot on. Nothing you can plan for only something you can work with once installed. For shims I used pieces of Formica and trial and error method.

Been there done that.

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#4 posted 09-21-2017 02:23 AM

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#5 posted 09-21-2017 02:28 AM

I’m thinking the drawer or the cabinet is a bit out of square. Did you use rear brackets on the back of the cabinet to install the slides or did you did you build out the sides to the face frame. If you used the rear bracket you can shift them over a bit to re-aline the drawer.

For a shop drawer I might be temped to fur out the drawer face itself. Put a couple of shim between the drawer box and the drawer front on the side that hits first.

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#6 posted 09-21-2017 02:40 AM

Maybe swap the two and see what happens

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#7 posted 09-21-2017 03:12 AM

Appreciate all the help. I built individual drawer boxes and attached the slides to the boxes. I guess it’s possible the box is out of square but I was careful when building them. Used a framing square and pulled a diagonal. Attached 1/4” plywood to the back of the boxes. I did try to shim the left rear but probably had to thick of a shim as I could barely get the drawer to move. I’ll have to pick up some thinner shims tomorrow and try again. At my age, my knees can only take so much in one day. Oh and to late on taking the Lord’s name in vain.

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#8 posted 09-21-2017 03:21 AM

Here’s one of the boxes I made. Was trying to make it easy on myself by attaching the drawer guides first but then realized I should of held them out another 3/4 of an inch to allow for the face frames.

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#9 posted 09-21-2017 03:42 AM

” Oh and to late on taking the Lord’s name in vain.” then did you move onto “Mother…..”

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#10 posted 09-21-2017 04:29 AM

Wood shims too big, matchbook covers are called for.

Good slides require accuracy. Measure your drawer front & back and make sure they’re both exactly the same.

Mount the sides to the cabinet first then make the drawer boxes to match.

It could be the face is warped.

Always buy quality flides, cheap ones aren’t worth the effort.

M

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