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Forum topic by dakremer posted 01-27-2011 11:25 PM 3334 views 0 times favorited 56 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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dakremer

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01-27-2011 11:25 PM

In my continuous dreaming of hopefully one day owning a top-of-the-line woodworking shop, I’m constantly looking up tools, and trying to figure out what is the BEST out there. Unfortunately with the VAST number of companies offering “top-of-the-line” tools, its hard to determine which one really is at the top, mainly because everyone has different needs/wants, and I’m sure some machines/tools are better at some things than others.
It seems like every day I come across a company selling woodworking tools that i’ve never heard of. Today I came across an Oliver Table saw – I’ve never heard of them. These saws are in the $2-3000+ range…but how do they compare to other EXPENSIVE companies??

So the question is…...if money wasn’t an object….like you just won the lottery…..what KINDS of tools, and what BRANDS of tools would you be buying????

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!


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Loren

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#1 posted 01-27-2011 11:41 PM

Machine brands: Martin format saws, Altendorf format saws, Striebig vertical panel
saws, Timesavers wide belt, Northfield jointers and planers, Maka mortisers, Japanese
super-surfacer (made by Makita, Hitachi but very rare), Wadkin shapers, Martin shapers.

The above tend to be machines that are extremely heavy and powerful here, and in
some cases very high-tech and computer controlled.

Vintage machinery brands worth checking out if you run across bargains are
Oliver, Moak, Northfield, Yates American and a few others that don’t come to
mind.

Oliver is a very respected in name old iron machinery, but the new machinery sold
under that name is made in Asia and is not the same stuff. It’s undoubtedly decent
quality stuff, but not the old Oliver.

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jim C

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#2 posted 01-27-2011 11:44 PM

Loren,
You beat me to it. Any German, or Swiss machine tools.
Check this out
http://www.martin-usa.com/cms/_main/index.php?id=125

-- When I was a boy, I was told "anyone can be President", now I'm beginning to believe it!

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dakremer

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#3 posted 01-27-2011 11:46 PM

haha….see what I mean…i have never even heard of those!! :) I only know of the common brands like Grizzley, etc…. I’m looking them up now!

EDIT: I’ve never seen sliding table saws like these used before….are they that much better??

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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cabmaker

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#4 posted 01-28-2011 12:00 AM

One might not accurately say a slider is better than a non-slider as they each have there pros and cons. But while your checking out those other names you might take a look at the delta rt-40. Its quite a machine(that is if you really did win the lotto)

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superstretch

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#5 posted 01-28-2011 12:36 AM

Craftsman and Ryobi—nothing else even comes close!

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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DaddyZ

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#6 posted 01-28-2011 12:41 AM

If money is no Option I would then pay you to use your shop, & Keep mine for the Jags, Lambos, Maseratis, Jets(Airplane not brand) ;)

The best is always someone elses!!!

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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dakremer

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#7 posted 01-28-2011 12:43 AM

well superstretch…....Toolshop is pretty close…........ :)

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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HorizontalMike

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#8 posted 01-28-2011 12:48 AM

Dagnamit DaddyZ, you beat me to the punch! When you’re done with dakremer, send him over to my shop on the Knucklehead, or at least on the Vincent OK?

NO HONDAS!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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live4ever

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#9 posted 01-28-2011 01:10 AM

I don’t know a darn thing about any of this so-called high-end machinery, but I’m wondering at what point the quality of the machines no longer become a hindrance to the hobbyist. I’m guessing the majority of company names being thrown around as being the highest quality also have to do with those machines withstanding production environments better and staying more reliable in the long run, not necessarily offering better cuts or more capability for the lotto-winning hobbyist woodworker. Maybe I am wrong…

-- Optimists are usually disappointed. Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a disappointed pessimist.

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#10 posted 01-28-2011 01:12 AM

So, I’m just guessing here, but Harbor Freight is out. No?

Seriously though…I wouldn’t equate professional machines with professional work.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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childress

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#11 posted 01-28-2011 01:39 AM

I’m looking into Felder and Hammer right now. Great combo machines made in Austria. Jim C has it right. Anything made in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, ect. are great machines. Minimax/Tecnomax are good too. These are the machines made to last with a high resale value. Nothing comparable to asian made stuff. There are a lot more, Like Loren pointed out, just don’t know much about all of them yet…

-- Childress Woodworks

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John Ormsby

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#12 posted 01-28-2011 02:06 AM

I have both Felder and Minimax machines and enjoy them very much. However, Martin machinery would be in my Lottery winning shop. It would also include a very high quality CNC machine and lots of wood.

Also, here is a dream shop that would fit the bill.

http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/European+Dreaming+A+Visit+To+Kent+Adkinss+Shop.aspx?et_mid=53073

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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Roger

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#13 posted 01-28-2011 02:21 AM

Here’s my $.02.
Sad thing is it took a ga-zillion words…. LOL Here goes. Strictly MY opinion, and thoughts. Woodworking is just like anything else. Do a little homework, get lots of opinions, do a little shopping, and while shopping, just pick up the different power tools, hand tools, and such, and feel em. How does that feel to you? How much is it? The heavy stuff, like table saw, drill press, jointer, planer, etc., it you’re lucky enough to have a Woodcraft, or any other store that may offer these machines, do the same, go check out all the different lines/makes n models. Seeing, touching, feeling is a big bonus when you get ready to make a large purchase. I would say, get what you can afford. There is a lot of great machinery out there. Actually it all, or a lot of it can be great if you just take the time to TUNE IT UP. I know this sounds really krazy. When you spend big bux, you should be able to “take it out of the box”, and work with it. In my opinion, just about everything you buy out there needs a bit of “tweeking”, being new or used. Used equipment CAN be a great deal, if you are able to find that deal. They are out there, just don’t wait forever, cuz, your woodin time tickin. Really look things over. Does it look well cared for? Is it all beat up? What’s the rest of the guys shop look like? Just like buyin a used car. If possible, take it for a “test-drive” so to speak…... cut a board if able. Anyway, you have to start somewhere. It is fun. No matter where you’re at.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. Kentuk55@yahoo.com

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canadianchips

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#14 posted 01-28-2011 02:50 AM

Roger hit it dead on !
Only thing I might add to it…Some people still won’t be able to do much even with the perfect tool.

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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dakremer

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#15 posted 01-28-2011 03:24 AM

While I agree with everything Roger is saying (and is most likely to be the situation for me) I was merely asking the question more for some fun. If you had won the lottery and money wasnt an issue, what equipment would you buy? I know the machine doesnt make you a better woodworker, but it definitely doesnt hurt!

John….that workshop is RETARDED!!! (and by retarded….i mean AWESOME!) – I would love to have a shop like that some day – you hardly ever see them with tons of windows and natural light, and nice floors. They always look like dungeons!! :)

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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