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mikey78

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09-19-2017 09:02 AM

Hello guys I’m currently restoring a type 14 n.7 Stanley Bailey jointer …
The tool is original in all respects but I miss the original blade with its “AA” trademark,
If anyone could help it would be great !!!


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bigJohninvegas

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#1 posted 09-19-2017 02:23 PM

I don’t know about an original replacement, but Lee valley tools sells both cap irons and blades for the old stanley planes.
Same material and options that they offer for the veritas planes.
I have bought a cap iron and blades set for my Bailey #5 and a blade for a #4. I used the powdered metal blade they offered. Very happy with it.
Here is a link to there site.
http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=43698&cat=1,41182

-- John

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RustyHacksaw

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#2 posted 09-19-2017 03:05 PM

If you have to buy a blade, there is no reason not to go with a modern replacement. They are better in every respect; except of course, authenticity.

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bandit571

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#3 posted 09-19-2017 03:21 PM

Just ruins the value of the plane one is trying to restore. The iron the OP is looking for is at least as good as the “new, and improved” ones….if not better.

OP: you might try looking up Eric at nhplaneparts and see if he has one. He seems to get quite a few in his ebay store…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Redoak49

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#4 posted 09-19-2017 03:35 PM

I love these comments about the steel made for blades 50 years ago is better than that made today. If you want original…OK. Do you have an idea about the differences in capability of steelmaking. Do you know anything about steelmaking.

From one who has made steel, I can tell you that there is no comparison. Today’s steel from a quality mfg or supplier like LN or Veritas is much better.

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UpstateNYdude

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#5 posted 09-19-2017 06:23 PM

RedOak49 you’re fighting a losing battle there, Bandit ritually shows up in any thread that mentions LN or LV and berates about how he sees no difference between the $5 garage sale plane and a new super expensive LN or LV. Trust me when I say you’re wasting your time with that fight.

I for one, 100% agree with you about the steel and quality of LN and LV tools.

-- Nick, “I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it.” – Vincent Van Gogh

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#6 posted 09-19-2017 06:47 PM

I have a T14 #7, mikey, but the cutter in it stays in my shop. :-) Good luck on your quest.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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ColonelTravis

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#7 posted 09-19-2017 07:05 PM

Agree modern steel is a better quality but:

1.) If everything else about the plane is original, and you you want to keep it as accurate as you can get, then get an old blade. Shouldn’t be that hard to track down.

2.) I love Hock blades and chipbreakers (actually, I love their chipbreakers more than the blades so much that I think the old style Stanley chipbreakers are a joke and I’ve replaced all of mine) and I don’t know if this is the case with a #7, but using a Hock blade in my #8, because it is thicker, it doesn’t leave a lot of room in the mouth. I had to file the mouth in one #8. In a second #8, I did not have to file the mouth but I might end up doing it anyway because it is so tight with that blade in there. I never had this issue with other bench plane models.

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bandit571

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#8 posted 09-19-2017 10:42 PM



RedOak49 you re fighting a losing battle there, Bandit ritually shows up in any thread that mentions LN or LV and berates about how he sees no difference between the $5 garage sale plane and a new super expensive LN or LV. Trust me when I say you re wasting your time with that fight.

I for one, 100% agree with you about the steel and quality of LN and LV tools.

- UpstateNYdude


More of your usual BS. Following me around like any good troll will do. Hasn’t a clue as to what I really do, do you. Save the LV/L-N Info-mercial….the OP’s plane was made long before either were in business. Happen to have several of the irons the OP is looking for. One will stay in my type 9, No. 7c. I may have a clipped corner logo iron that would fit.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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bandit571

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#9 posted 09-19-2017 10:57 PM

Tell you what, I will send the OP an iron. Clipped corner logo, stamped for the 1st quarter of 1940. I merely need his address to mail it to him…FREE. I will ship it on my dime. Iron is sharpened up, and ready to go. PM your address.and I’ll send it out tomorrow.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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bandit571

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#10 posted 09-20-2017 12:43 AM

Forgot to ask…do you also need a chipbreaker?

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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diverlloyd

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#11 posted 09-20-2017 01:09 AM

My $5 yard sale all original bedrock cuts and keeps a edge longer then the Lee Valley that I gave away hince why I gave it away. But it’s blade is laminated so I guess I can’t compare that to new steel that would be a bit unfair since I did give away the Lee plane. Just because it’s new doesn’t mean it’s better.

Op I was going to offer to see if I had one but it seems bandit already made the offer. Sorry for your thread to be derailed on buying new vs old when you specifically asked for original.

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ColonelTravis

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#12 posted 09-20-2017 01:53 AM

Just because it s new doesn t mean it s better.
- diverlloyd

The differences between O1, PM-V11 and A2 are real. For chisels, there are even more steels available (white, chrome vanadium, stainless, etc. – all with advantages and disadvantages). I’ve sworn off A2 because I’m sick of how brittle the edge gets and the time it takes to sharpen, but its edge retention is superior to O1. PM-V11 isn’t as tough to sharpen as A2 and the edge lasts forever – I don’t know how you could not consider it a better steel than what came in the old Stanleys. Will you plane better with it? No. But that’s not where “better” comes into play here.

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bandit571

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#13 posted 09-20-2017 02:05 AM

Better steel was not the question of the OP’s…..he is, however, looking for the original iron so the plane he has is completely original…

I am currently using a Stanley No. 7c, Type 9, with the original iron in it. Been jointing a lot of Maple lately….seems to be working just fine.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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ColonelTravis

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#14 posted 09-20-2017 02:33 AM

Bandit I know what the OP asked, but the first two responses talked about modern blades. And you’re the one who said ” The iron the OP is looking for is at least as good as the “new, and improved” ones….if not better.”

The only way a vintage Stanley O1 blade is “better” than the new steels of today is that you might be able to find an O1 blade for dirt cheap, or, as you’ve said you’d do, which is great, find one for free vs. paying $40-$50.

Otherwise, O1 doesn’t cut better. Neither do any of the others. How, specifically, is O1 better? You keep saying this but don’t say why. O1 edge retention isn’t better. That’s simply a fact. Is that worth it? Only you can say. O1 is better for me than sharpening A2, but some people don’t mind sharpening A2. I’ve not found O1 better to sharpen than PM-V11. To me, it’s silly to replace all your vintage blades with new blades. But it’s just as silly to not acknowledge the advantages of the newer steels.

I used my old Stanley #8 a lot today. When I first got it, it didn’t have a blade or a chipbreaker. I put a Hock O1 set in there….seems to be working just fine. In fact, it works just as fine as my vintage blades. Scratch that – works better because mesquite can be a bear to mill and the more mass I have with a thicker chipbreaker and thicker blade and a stronger connection between the two parts, the less chatter.

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TheFridge

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#15 posted 09-20-2017 02:56 AM

Whatever happened to Hanson? Remember the song mmmbop?

And all of us hand took junkies follow the same types of threads.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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