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Forum topic by Hermit posted 09-13-2017 02:31 AM 358 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Hermit

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09-13-2017 02:31 AM

So I’ve been working on face frames for my shop cabinets made of pine.
Sanded with 80 grit, 120, 150 then 220. Felt smooth when done.
Applied wood conditioner, waited 5 mins per instructions, wiped off excess which wasn’t much as it all soaked in.
Waited 15 mins per instructions, grain was raised as I expected. Sanded with 220 lightly until smooth again.
Applied danish oil. Waited 30 mins. Added more, waited 15 mins, all per instructions. Grain raised again.
After 72 hours, light sand with 400. Applied 5 coats lacquer. Grain raised again. 400 sand one more time extremely light, then one last coat of lacquer,
So after all that it’s still not as smooth as I had hoped for.
Is it normal with pine for the grain to keep raising or am I doing something wrong?

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#1 posted 09-13-2017 02:43 AM

Oil and oil based products don’t raise the grain. Water, alcohol, shellac, and lacquer will raise the grain. Be more specific about the products used and that might help. But I don’t know why you would use lacquer over Danish Oil. I like to keep it simple, pick one finish and stick with it.

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#2 posted 09-13-2017 02:47 AM

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#3 posted 09-13-2017 02:54 AM

Are you sure you aren’t just getting dust in your finish? Once you applied the Danish oil, I would not expect any raised grain because it should pretty much lock down the grain.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#4 posted 09-13-2017 03:06 AM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-fe8-y9HpA

- a1Jim

Interesting video, thanks for posting Jim

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#5 posted 09-13-2017 01:22 PM

Thanks for the link Jim. Glad it’s not just me. I think I’ve watched just about every video on staining pine except Charles Neils videos. What he said makes since now.
Lazyman, I think you nailed it.after staining more last night there was some fine dust on the surface.

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#6 posted 09-13-2017 01:37 PM

I believe the OP is calling any kind of bumps or texture “raised grain.”

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#7 posted 09-13-2017 01:43 PM

Here is my favorite PINE Finish…

Prep as called for. 2-3 maybe four flood coats of (Natural) Danish Oil. Then 2-3 coats Semi gloss water based poly. SAND. 2-3 coats poly. SAND 2 more coats poly. WAX!

Or forget the poly and put on several coats of Finishing wax!

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richardchaos

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#8 posted 09-13-2017 02:07 PM

Shake up your danish oil can ALSO you may wish to Strain the contents before you use it. Danish oils has a nasty habit of drying on the top of theca then cracking and getting back into the can.

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#9 posted 09-13-2017 09:05 PM

This Ponderosa pine table was finished with Gel stain (Walnut I think) and wipe on Poly.

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