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09-11-2017 11:39 PM

Does this sound right?

I have a few threads going as I get set up to do a project. I need 1/2” maple to make jewelry box drawer carcases. Rockler sells a 1/2×5x48 piece for $28. Compton Lumber here in Seattle will sell me a finished 1×6x48 board (3/4×5 1/2) for $14 and run it through their planer and take it down to 1/2” at no charge.

That’s half the cost and I get to chose the stock! What am I missing?

-- Andy - Seattle


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#1 posted 09-11-2017 11:49 PM

What your missing is rockler is a weekend warrior store, and prices are adjusted accordingly.

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#2 posted 09-11-2017 11:52 PM


What your missing is rockler is a weekend warrior store, and prices are adjusted accordingly.

- cabmaker


I know and expected that but half kind of shocked me.

-- Andy - Seattle

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#3 posted 09-11-2017 11:59 PM

Andy,,,,probably not a big deal because you only need a very small quantity

But i feel your pain, i have had to bite my tongue often when at the big box and watching someone loadup on oak or poplar.

I have been in a rocker once, and that was enough.

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#4 posted 09-12-2017 12:00 AM



What your missing is rockler is a weekend warrior store, and prices are adjusted accordingly.

- cabmaker


Does this sound right?

I have a few threads going as I get set up to do a project. I need 1/2” maple to make jewelry box drawer carcases. Rockler sells a 1/2×5x48 piece for $28. Compton Lumber here in Seattle will sell me a finished 1×6x48 board (3/4×5 1/2) for $14 and run it through their planer and take it down to 1/2” at no charge.

That s half the cost and I get to chose the stock! What am I missing?

- Andybb


I have found that Rockler’s price are always (mosts item I search for) near the top. Only time I order from Rockler is if they have something no one else has.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#5 posted 09-12-2017 12:16 AM



Andy,,,,probably not a big deal because you only need a very small quantity

But i feel your pain, i have had to bite my tongue often when at the big box and watching someone loadup on oak or poplar.

I have been in a rocker once, and that was enough.

- cabmaker


There are a few things I have gotten at Rockler and they are entitled to price as they wish. Mostly stuff not on Amazon. I’ve never really even considered buying lumber from them as I knew their prices would be crazy high. Again, HALF just took me by surprise. But I do enjoy going in and looking at all the stuff I can’t afford.

-- Andy - Seattle

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#6 posted 09-12-2017 12:18 AM

Ocooch Hardwood has it at a reasonable price.

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#7 posted 09-12-2017 12:24 AM

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#8 posted 09-12-2017 12:33 AM


Ocooch Hardwood has it at a reasonable price.

- Redoak49


Thanks for the responses. I was genuinely curious if someone would say there is some dramatic difference in quality. (Like a Rockler router bit and a cheap knockoff.)

-- Andy - Seattle

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#9 posted 09-12-2017 02:09 AM

That would cost you $4 at Hobby Hardwood Alabama HHAhttp://www.hobbyhardwoodalabama.com/maple-red.html

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#10 posted 09-12-2017 04:36 AM

You have to shop around. The wood boutiques get some of the best-figured lumber, but they are going to get the best price for it. Rockler sells a 1/4” X 5” by 4’ QSWO board for $31.99. I’ll let you do the math for price per board foot. It’s cheaper to buy the same thing, but in 3/4”, at $24.99! You could resaw it and plane and sand it (if you had the equipment) for less. But if you don’t have the necessary equipment, you are going to pay them for the convenience of the machine work and attendant labor costs. Note that I don’t like it either, but it just seems to be the way it is, unless I can be educated differently. It really depends on what your time is worth, and what equipment you have.

-- Random Orbital Nailer

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#11 posted 09-12-2017 04:56 AM

There’s also Crosscut across the street from Compton if you haven’t checked there yet. I believe they sell maple in 1/2” already planed ready to go.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#12 posted 09-12-2017 05:21 AM


You have to shop around. The wood boutiques get some of the best-figured lumber, but they are going to get the best price for it. Rockler sells a 1/4” X 5” by 4 QSWO board for $31.99. I ll let you do the math for price per board foot. It s cheaper to buy the same thing, but in 3/4”, at $24.99! You could resaw it and plane and sand it (if you had the equipment) for less. But if you don t have the necessary equipment, you are going to pay them for the convenience of the machine work and attendant labor costs. Note that I don t like it either, but it just seems to be the way it is, unless I can be educated differently. It really depends on what your time is worth, and what equipment you have.

- Dark_Lightning


Yeah. This is for drawer carcasses and they want me to make steady supply of them. The customer just doesn’t want plywood. I have the equipment but if it takes me a month to make each one it’s not worth it so I need a process for quality and time. I’m looking for 1/2 and 1/4 for caecasses and bottoms. The fronts are spalted maple which I have plenty of..


There s also Crosscut across the street from Compton if you haven t checked there yet. I believe they sell maple in 1/2” already planed ready to go.

- jmartel


Thanks. I’ll give them a call. I looked at their website before I called Compton and they do have 1/2” eastern maple. It always seems like lumber places have notoriously difficult websites to navigate for pricing and availability. Their website says “call us for today’s price.” Even the guy at Compton said, “yeah, you can’t really see what we have from our website”.

-- Andy - Seattle

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#13 posted 09-12-2017 11:18 AM

Even your cheaper price is pretty expensive for unfigured hard maple, at $7 a bf. I understand that on the west coast hardwood costs more than it does here on the east coast, but I expect to pay about $4 for professionally sawn, dried and graded, and about $2 for air-dried, sawn on a bandsaw mill.

-- Jeremy, in the Acadian forests

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#14 posted 09-12-2017 02:28 PM


Even your cheaper price is pretty expensive for unfigured hard maple, at $7 a bf. I understand that on the west coast hardwood costs more than it does here on the east coast, but I expect to pay about $4 for professionally sawn, dried and graded, and about $2 for air-dried, sawn on a bandsaw mill.

- jdh122

That’s because they are doing all of the jointing, ripping, planing etc down to 1/2” for that price. Normal maple here costs about $4-4.50 rough. Less if you can find a local sawyer instead of going through the lumber dealer.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#15 posted 09-13-2017 12:01 AM

That all makes sense. Just researching my options. The owner of the gallery likes the look of the miter lock corners so that is how I plan on joining the corners of the carcasses. Since I’m trying to turn a profit and the owner said they always want to have a few in stock for sale I need to be able to build them efficiently and “repeatably”. I have a full time job so time management is critical. That’s why I want finished dimensioned wood to save the time of having to do that myself.

For a 4’ length…..
Option 1 Compton Lumber – 3/4” x 5 1/2” board planed down to 1/2” is $14 priced at $7/bd.ft.

Option 2 Crosscut Lumber (thanks jmartel) – 1/2” x 6” finished on 2 sides is $12 priced @ $5.75/sq.ft.

Option 3 Rockler – Maple by the Piece, 1/2” X 5” X 48” is $28

Even your cheaper price is pretty expensive for unfigured hard maple, at $7 a bf. I understand that on the west coast hardwood costs more than it does here on the east coast, but I expect to pay about $4 for professionally sawn, dried and graded, and about $2 for air-dried, sawn on a bandsaw mill.

- jdh122

That s because they are doing all of the jointing, ripping, planing etc down to 1/2” for that price. Normal maple here costs about $4-4.50 rough. Less if you can find a local sawyer instead of going through the lumber dealer.

- jmartel


Yep. And I’m good paying the cost to have it planed and ready.

Seems like Option 2 is the way to go as it is not only the least expensive but would also be a consistent finish and thickness? Guess I’ll have to plane those down to 1/4” for the drawer bottoms.

-- Andy - Seattle

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