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Forum topic by DaMaDo posted 09-08-2017 01:47 PM 404 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-08-2017 01:47 PM

I recently got some carter guides for my Grizzly G0555LANV bandsaw and the rod is so far off that one of the bearings is maxed out and still not close enough to the saw blade. The blade has always been rubbing on the insert that came with it and I’m not sure how I can adjust it to fix both the guide issue and insert issue. Pictures will explain best.


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#1 posted 09-08-2017 03:12 PM

I can’t tell from the picture, but is the new guide bolted to the post? If so could it be rotated a small amount to the left (based on first pic) I had to do that recently on my 14 inch grizzly. Other than that give, Carter a call.

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#2 posted 09-08-2017 04:16 PM

Mine is the Shopfox clone of that saw, and it is always close to rubbing against the insert in the table. So I think that is normal for this saw.

I do not have carter guides so I cannot comment on what is happening there.

Brian

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#3 posted 09-10-2017 01:56 AM

I emailed carter to see if they had any advice. The stock guides have more adjustment travel in them so they can be aligned properly. I’d like to keep these guides though.

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#4 posted 09-10-2017 02:13 AM

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#5 posted 09-10-2017 02:20 AM

Yeah, that’s probably it, but I think the only way to adjust that on this bandsaw is to unfasten the column where a riser would go and shim there…and hope that doesn’t mess up anything else. I’ve never taken that section apart, so I’ve been trying to avoid it, but it seems it may be the only way. I don’t have some of the wheel adjustments shown in that pdf.

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#6 posted 09-10-2017 02:24 AM

Do you need to shim it or perhaps loosen the bolts and see if the top will shift a bit to the side.

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#7 posted 09-10-2017 02:53 AM

I’ll try loosening it tomorrow and see what it can do with sliding and/or shimming.

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#8 posted 09-10-2017 11:58 AM

Suggestion:
Flip the insert horizontally, so 9 o’clock goes to 3 o’clock. And then see if you can then adjust the left/right bearings within limits, or see if the existing error is just mirrored to the max in opposite direction. My guess is that flipping the insert might do the trick since you already have everything maxed to the right.

Worth a try…

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#9 posted 09-11-2017 08:02 PM

I always thought the inserts were ‘intentionally off center…. to account for tilting the table. Since you can tilt 9 or 10 degrees to the left, and 45 to the right – I thought it was designed so the factory insert would still work with the table tilted.

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#10 posted 09-11-2017 08:07 PM

If everything is correct, tilting the table will not change the blade in relation to the insert, just like your tablesaw.

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#11 posted 09-11-2017 08:38 PM

I found that there’s a wheel slider on this model that allows a max of about 0.1” of adjustment. Moving it the full 0.1” allowed it to slide just enough to touch the maxed out carter guide and get just off the insert. I moved the carter guide just a hair off from max position to eliminate contact. It’s still at the edge of the thrust bearing though. It’s not pretty, but it should work. Carter engineer told me to call him so I may do that to get this over a bit more.

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#12 posted 09-12-2017 02:26 PM


If everything is correct, tilting the table will not change the blade in relation to the insert, just like your tablesaw.

- papadan


It “Shouldn’t” change… however, I have the Delta 28-475X…. and when I tilt the table, the blade moves in the slot. So the trunnion curve and position, is such that the axis is not ‘perfectly’ at the surface of the cast iron table at that point. Never seen a 14 inch saw that was centered. But I have only seen 6 or 7 out of the gazillion that were made. Maybe some of teh steel frame units like the Laguna or new Rikon’s are different.

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