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Forum topic by greatview posted 01-22-2011 11:04 PM 4891 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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greatview

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01-22-2011 11:04 PM

I’m wondering if these deals are any good. 80 piece 1/2” shank for $89.99 (with free shipping) – slightly over $1.00 per bit. There are many others at similar prices.

http://cgi.ebay.com/80pc-1-2-Shank-Tungsten-Carbide-Router-Bit-Set-3-Blade-/310286793031?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item483e88b947

-- Tom, New London, NH


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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 01-22-2011 11:39 PM

I know it’s tempting, but do you really want to work in close proximity to $1 router bits spinning sharp pieces of metal at 20,000 rpm?

I have no objection to cheaper bits… I use them myself sometimes. But these seem a little too cheap to trust with my safety.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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woodworkerscott

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#2 posted 01-22-2011 11:55 PM

I have bought the less expensive bits on ebay and have had really good results. In fact I just got an order in from them. I bought mine from a seller named ghsu2ia3.
Yes they are made in China and other places but so are 99% of all woodworking tools and equipment, no matter what brand name is slapped on it. Make sure they are actually carbide. Some sellers don’t tell you that the bits are HSS. Read descriptions really close. Get a decent grade of carbide as well.

I would suggest that for a piece of mind you should check out www.mlcswoodworking.com for great prices on quality bits. Check out the web specials and the bargain bin there. And you can’t beat the free shipping on everything. I love MLCS products.

-- " 'woodworker'.....it's a good word, an honest word." - Sam Maloof

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richgreer

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#3 posted 01-23-2011 12:01 AM

I’ll second everything Charlie said and add this – -

When you buy 80 bits in a package you are going to get a lot of bits you will never use. You’ll probably find that you will only use 10 – 15 of the bits at the most. IMO, it’s better to figure out what bits you need and buy them either one at a time or in a small set that has basically what you need (and little more).

FYI – Years ago I bought a 20 piece Wood River set and I probably use 12-15 of 20 bits.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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canadianchips

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#4 posted 01-23-2011 12:37 AM

I bought a “Kit ” like this from Princes Auto about 6 months ago. It was on SALE, they were doing a promotion for thier 1 year opening at this site. Was on SALE for $49. I found one inside the store at the SALE bin for $39.00. One of the latches on aluminum case was damaged ! (Big Whoop) When I got to the counter I was given another 10% off that day because of the 1 year opening thing. I have used a couple of the bits and they work fine. At that price use each bit once and throw it away is still a deal. The guide bearings seem lighter than fread.
The most expense part of this SALE was “I didn’t own a 1/2 shank router at that time !” DO NOW !

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#5 posted 01-23-2011 02:30 AM

Router bits aren’t like clamps or sandpaper where the cheapest will suffice…they spin at > 20K rpms and can shed a carbide cutter (I’ve seen it). There are too many other good choices to risk buying poorly made bits.

If you’ve got $90 to spend on bits, I’d consider getting a small set of premium bits with the most commonly used profiles. Whiteside and Infinity both have excellent basic sets. Then you can add specialized profiles as needed. There is a place in most shops for budget bits too, but the cheapest unknown no-name bits are not the answer…if budget bits suit the need, there are well proven choices from MLCS, Woodline, Grizzly, Price Cutter, and Woodcraft.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Kevin

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#6 posted 01-23-2011 07:49 AM

I usually try to hit up ebay for deals on freud, infinity, whiteside, bosch. I’ve bout my last 5-6 bits on there for less than $5 per bit. I usually don’t use a lot of different bits so I elected not to buy a set.

-- Williamsburg, KY

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bent

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#7 posted 01-23-2011 02:00 PM

i have the exact same set that you posted. i’ve been using them for 2 years with no problems at all. for the money, they’re a steal. only once have i ever had a router bit come apart on me, and it was a $45 porter cable bit.

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Poncacity

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#8 posted 01-23-2011 02:24 PM

A large set of bits may look good on display but I have to agree with Rich. Though I have never bought a set, I have bought a few bit just because I thought I might need them. I found I have bits on display I do not use. Now I wait till I need them and then go buy what I need. But hay, I just bought a new table saw that I was told I didn’t,t need. If this purchase makes you happy, that is all that really matters.

-- Lloyd, Ponca City, OK

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iamwelty

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#9 posted 01-23-2011 02:49 PM

I’m with KnottScott on this one… I bet if that $45 Porter Cable bit that came apart would have killed Bent, his widow would have at least been able to sue Porter Cable, good luck going after the “No Name” Company that made the other bits in question…. I sincerely doubt that they ever heard of product liability insurance-

-- There is a fine line between eroticism and nausea...

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D_Allen

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#10 posted 01-23-2011 03:12 PM

Other brands that are made in China are not necessarily a low quality just because of that fact. Many years ago I was concerned when Senco began making stuff there but as time went on I realized that what the sales rep told me was true. The standards they require are higher and that can make the product better. That’s not true for all brand names but it is something to consider.

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#11 posted 01-23-2011 05:29 PM

My first set of bits years ago was a set similar to the one you are looking at. I agree that many of them you may never use, but they have worked great over the years and its been nice to have them so I can just pick what I need. As they dull or wear out I just replace them with better ones. Be sure your router will accept the shank size though.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#12 posted 01-23-2011 06:10 PM

Router Bits on Ebay
If you study sources such as Ebay and Amazon on a regular basis you will find some REAL bargains in router bits and need to grab them quickly.
Personally I have never bought any “sets”, I was given an MLCS set in a wall box and have used some – seem pretty good. But I have some jaw dropping purchases of bits – not Chinese, but the highest quality bits at ridiculous prices.
In the pictures below you can see SOME of the bits, I do not have a pic of my Freud/Milwaukee/PC bits – all purchased at blow out prices.
Bits that you can see on the top racks are almost all new AMANA bits – very expensive, top of the line and I paid $3 or $4 each for them, and to the right (just out of shot) is an AMANA tambour set.
The lower rack shows more Large AMANA bits plus CMT and the yellow bits are Canadian and made in Taiwan.
Many do not know that Freud and Milwaukee bits are EXACTLY the same bits, same manufacture, same packaging (but name/logo) and Milwaukee sells for less than Freud.

So I can advise to keep checking on Ebay and Amazon for these bargains to show up, but mind they are only there for a brief amount of time.
I have NEVER purchased any used bits.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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mfike

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#13 posted 01-23-2011 09:16 PM

I bought a set like that years ago and still use some of them. They have decent cut quality and don’t wear out too fast. I also have some high dollar solid carbide spirals I use for mortising and I use my higher quality bits for dovetails and dados. That said, I definitely have gotten my money’s worth out of the cheap set. Mine have woodshop supply inc. on the shank.

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Dan Lyke

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#14 posted 01-24-2011 06:11 PM

Worth reading Bridge City Toolworks: $5 for a 1/8″ Twist Drill? Only in America….

I can’t speak to these particular bits, or to other people’s experiences with them, but every time I try to cheap out on a cutting edge of some sort, from saw blade to router bit to drill bit, I end up frustrated in some small way. Even more frustrated when I then replace it with a known high-quality cutting edge and realize why I was frustrated.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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BreakingBoardom

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#15 posted 01-24-2011 06:47 PM

I bought a similar set on eBay soon after buying my first router. I didn’t have much money and it seemed like a good deal. My first real project (A Bassinet you can see in my Projects) was built out of pine and the bits worked great. Next I built a crib from alder and only used chamfer and roundover bits and they worked well. Then I tried using some of the bits on hardwoods and ran into a few problems. I got more burning and even spots where the cutter didn’t cut consistent depth and was pushed up. The edge profiles still worked ok but any bit that’s entering the wood like a straight bit or groove bit, just doesn’t work as well. I tried putting a juice groove for a cutting board in maple and walnut, and even with light passes I got lots of burning and inconsistent depth. I thought maybe it was my weak Craftsman Router that I got for cheap. I went to HD and bought a $20 Freud bit for the groove, brought it home and put it in my router. Worked perfect with no burning.
So, my advice, is a cheap set may work for softer woods or as a junk set when you don’t want to use your good bits, or even just the profile bits may work ok, but for any kind of plunging bit or grooving bit, or straight bits, I’d go with a higher quality set. Just my 2 cents.

-- Matt - http://breakingboardom.wordpress.com/

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