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iSawitfirst

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280 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: sander

I’m considering getting a drum sander but am intregued with the Sandflee. Just wondering if anyone has one. If so, are you able to get consistant thicknesses with it?

If you don’t have one, can you recommend a good 12-18” drum sander?

Thanks in advance.

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iSawitfirst

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272 days ago

Anyone?

-- The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance. Aristotle

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tenontim

960 posts in 281 days


272 days ago

I’ve got a Delta 18-36” and am very pleased with it. It’s a very sturdy machine. Sorry, haven’t ever heard of the Sandflea.

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Jim Brown

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271 days ago

I do have one. The thing to be aware of it that is NOT for thicknessing. The fence makes it work kind of along the lines of a jointer, metaphorically. You can sand a fairly wide panel with it, but you’re not going to level out a piece of resawn veneer or a set of strips to uniform thickness. I use mine on just about every project, and I consider it to be fairly well made, but it’s not cheap for what you get. I don’t regret buying it, exactly, but I don’t think I’m putting it to full use.

If you’re in craft production, as my parents were for many years, you’ll love this thing. Put three different grits of sandpaper on it, zip zip zip, and you’re done sanding. Good luck with your decision. I’ll answer any questions I can.

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GlennJ

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268 days ago

Hi -

I work in a cabinet shop, own a sandflee, and demo it at some of the wood shows. This makes me biased and you should know that going it. I largely aggree with Jim Brown’s assessment – that the unit is not a thickness sander and it is not for removing large quantities of stock. If your application is thickness planing I would recommend the General double drum sander as a great tool. I don’t like the Performax because we consistently have setup and use problems with it. If you are finish sanding parts or assembled units the Sand-Flee is the best choice because of versatility and ease of use.

The Sand-Flee is a finishing drum sander. It is made in the USA from US parts and the motor is a Baldor 1/3 horse motor. The machine carries a lifetime guarentee – we’ll fix it for you if it breaks. The motor has a 2 year warrenty from Baldor. The top is 11 guage stainless.

In the cabinet shop we have the Sand-Flee, a Performax drum sander, and a General double drum sander. For us a 10-cabinet run is large. We build mostly entertainment centers, kitchen remodel and small tables on a 1-off basis.

The Performax sander is the least used. It is a thickness sander with a power feed. Like a planer, the sanding is done on the top and the feed is from the bottom. We have largely stopped using the unit because keeping the overhead arm in proper adjustment is a lot of work. It costs between $5 and $8 per wrap for the paper and you have to wrap the whole drum with the same grit. The paper has a mechanical restraint and can be hard to load. We have also had problems with burning cherry. The Performax also puts dust everywhere even when connected to dust collection.

The General double drum sander is a thickness sander. Like the Performax it sands from the top and the power feed works from the bottom. This is a much better sander for thicknessing. Because the feed is a rubber belt there is some give and on narrow work you can get out of square. Dust collection is good and the feed rate is good. This is a much more expensive machine than either of the others. The shortest part you can put through is 6” and I don’t like to go shorter than 8-10. The mechanical paper restraint is easier to use. You do need to load two drums to use the machine effectively and you are limited to one grit per drum. It will remove lots of stock quickly with an 80 or 100 grit on the first roller.

The Sand-Flee is a different type of machine. The drum is under the table, and you take off about 1/64th per pass because you are limited by the grit you mount. Pressing down on the stock does not increase the amout of wood removed. The paper uses Velcro—so it is available from multiple suppliers and you can mount multiple grits at the same time. There is no height or shape limitation so you can sand all 6 sides of a board—with a fence you effectively edge joint the four sides and sand the front a back. This can be useful for finish sanding boxes or final sanding of doors and lids. Although I don’t scroll saw, several customers use it to sand their work so it manages thin and/or fragile work. It costs about $1.50 to wrap the 18” drum regardless of grit. The paper is easy to load. We use the machine a lot in the shop.

Hope this didn’t sound too much like a commercial, but I like the machine.

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Bob #2

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268 days ago

I have a variation of this machine and it has served me well.
I will eventually build a drum sander to control the thckness of stock whcih this does not.
It follows the surface of the material you present and has no capacity to “thckness” your stock.
If you are carefull with you planer you cansneakup on a very nice finsh withthis machine but it has he limitation.
I use mine all the time for leveling etc.

Bob

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Karson

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268 days ago

I have a friend that has one and I’ve used it but I agree with the posts given. It’s a freehand sander but will not make work level. You can run the wood thru at an angle to help get rid if high spots.

-- Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com

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GlennJ

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267 days ago

On the Sand-Flee web site (www.rjrstudios.com) there is a good article by Nick Engler (http://rjrstudios.com/inthemedia.php) that you can download. It talks about surface finish using the tool.

There is also an instructional/sales video reached from the home page. Click the link in the lower right corner.

-Glenn

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GaryK

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266 days ago

I have the performax 22/44 and I love it. There isn’t a project that I don’t use it on.

You will notice that my opinion is the exact opposite of GlennJ’s. That’s what these are, opinions.

I have set the adjustment on the cantilevered once I have never had to adjust is since. Installing the paper
isn’t that hard at all once you get used to it. Sandpaper is pretty expensive, but once you get the hang
of the feed rates and how much material to remove per pass, you can get it to last quits a whle.
Right now I have had the same paper on for about a month.

I can see certain advantages of the sand-flee but for a little more money you can get a sander that
also can make you wood the exact thickness you want.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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cajunpen

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256 days ago

Well, I’ll let you know sometime within the next two weeks. I ordered a Sand Flee the other day and am awaiting it’s arrival. I have the Performax 16-32 and it is an awesome machine, in my opinion – but it also has it’s height limitations. I also have a Delta Planer (12 1/2”) and what I’m hoping for is that the Sand Flee will be the final piece that I need for perfect stock. I’ll let you know when I’ve put it through it’s paces.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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