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Forum topic by AlexGefilte posted 09-01-2017 06:52 PM 885 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AlexGefilte

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09-01-2017 06:52 PM

Topic tags/keywords: drum sander jet sanders

Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. I am currently in the market for a Drum Sander and I have been comparing the JET and Supermax models. I was looking at the Woodcraft website today and it looks like prices on the JET units have dropped fairly drastically. Here is what I found:

JET 1632 is now $1099.99, down from $1299.99
JET 1836 is now $1299.99 down from $1397.99

I think their larger 22-44 Drum Sanders have dropped in price as well but I need to do some more digging first. I am leaning towards the 1632 or the 1836 for the added dust collection and other features they seem to have over the SuperMax.

Any thoughts from you guys here? Seems like pretty good price drops


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Mike_D_S

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#1 posted 09-01-2017 10:09 PM

I have a Frankenstein Perfoma-Jet 16/32 that started as a Performax 16/32 which I added the Jet Sandsmart controller to. I like it, but may not have the best example to give advice based on.

Just out of curiosity, why the Jet over the Supermax? The features seems to be very equivalent at the moment?

Thanks,
Mike

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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AlexGefilte

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#2 posted 09-01-2017 10:14 PM

The main reason I am looking at the JET over the Supermax right now is for the dust collection. Opening the newer JETs up, they molded a baffle to direct the dust into the port, and the housing is much tighter around the drum than the Supermax from what I have seen. That fine sanding dust is a bigger deal for me because the wife’s car shares my shop.

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#3 posted 09-02-2017 12:25 AM

Hopefully someone with some direct experience will chime in, but I don’t have any problems with the dust collection on the older performax hood using the HF 2hp collector with the 4” hose and port.

Not to say the new one isn’t better by miles for DC, but the old ones aren’t that bad.

The thing I do dislike about mine is the width of the conveyor bed. When I do things like cabinet doors or picture frames, I can do wider than 16” with a flip, but keeping it level is a beast. I would personally add points for whichever had a wider conveyor.

Mike

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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#4 posted 09-02-2017 12:29 AM

I have the JET 16/32, love it , dust collection is great

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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upplepop

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#5 posted 09-02-2017 12:35 AM

They must have dropped the price to compete with the new 16-32 model that SuperMax is coming out with. It is only $1,200 and has some nice new features like an integrated digital read out.

I am looking at drum sanders as well and am considering the SuperMax 16-32 over the JET. However, I do like that the SuperMax 19-38 has a cast iron frame and metal dust hood.

SuperMax put together a useful comparison of several mid-size drum sanders here.

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#6 posted 09-02-2017 01:41 AM

I too have been looking into a drum sander. I was at the AWFS show back in July and supermax had a booth there.
I was Impressed with both the 16/32 and the 19/38.
The smaller 16/32 was a prototype that had a quick release handle to raise and lower the drum in an instant. only had to hand crank for fine adjustment with each pass. No answer at the show about this option showing up and the 19/38, or larger models.
No hook and loop option for the paper, but uses a spring tension system to keep the paper tight. That seemed to be a good option. I don’t know if this is a new feature. The machines I have used had hook and loop that you loose and inch on the ends because it needs to be taped on, or the paper had a set screw style fastener that held the paper, and seems to be a pain to work with.
A lot of talk about how it will stay flat.
This was all the sales pitch from Supermax.
It all sounded good, but I am still shy about an open ended drum sander.
The 3 people I know that own or have owned them claim that keep them adjusted flat is near impossible.
I am personally sold on the Woodmaster 25” planer that can be switched into a drum sander and several other configurations that I don’t have a use for at the moment.
unfortunately, at the moment it is well outside of my budget. But I figure when I can, it will replace my 13” lunch box planer at the same time.

-- John

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retfr8flyr

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#7 posted 09-02-2017 02:02 AM

I recently got the Jet 22-44 OCS sander, at a very good price and the dust collection on it is very good. Between the oscillation and the excellent dust collection it does a great job.

-- Earl

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Mike_D_S

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#8 posted 09-02-2017 03:05 PM

John,

I’ve had both the Jet 10/20 and now the Performax 16/32, but both were the older design where you had to loosen the drum head to adjust parallel which is an unmitigated pain in the ass. But I will say in my experience they stay where you put them unless you try and use it like a planer rather than a sander.

If you try to take to large of a cut with to fine of a grit you’ll get end deflection and normally the machine is bogging down as well. But if I use it like a sander and not a planer, then I haven’t experienced any issue with the head alignment changing much over time but I am always aware of depth of cut.

The Supermax and new Jet design to adjust parallel by raising the conveyor may make keeping the planer head level a lot easier. I’d like to get some hands on experience with one or maybe someone here can chime in.

Mike

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Mike_D_S

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#9 posted 09-02-2017 03:50 PM

One other observation between the Jet and Supermax involves the folding table option. I have the tables for my Performax 16/32 but I also have a small shop since I work out of my garage. As a result I keep the tables off basically 100% of a time and the sander really takes up a lot of space with the tables mounted. There are plenty of times I wanted to use the tables, but chose not to in order to save the mounting/unmounting time.

I would advise spending some time thinking about what kind of work you want to do with it. If you think having the tables will be important, then you might want to add some weight to Supermax for being able to fold the tables for storage.

Of course given him similar the machine bases are maybe the superman folding tables for the 16/32 could be mounted on the Jet 16/32?

Thanks,
Mike

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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#10 posted 09-02-2017 05:27 PM

JET has been taking a beating since the Supermax came out. The manager at Rockler told me they hadn’t sold a JET since the Supermax’s hit the floor. I didn’t have much trouble with the JET 16-32 but upgraded to the SM 19-38. That little bit of extra sanding room and extra power really shows.

-- Schooled in the advanced art of sawdust and woodchip manufacturing.

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bigJohninvegas

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#11 posted 09-02-2017 11:27 PM


I ve had both the Jet 10/20 and now the Performax 16/32, but both were the older design where you had to loosen the drum head to adjust parallel which is an unmitigated pain in the ass. But I will say in my experience they stay where you put them unless you try and use it like a planer rather than a sander.

- MikeDS


Part of the Demo at the AWFS fair that I did not mention addressed this too.
The drum head on the new supermax is fixed, not adjustable. All the adjusting is in the table, and looked pretty easy.
Supposed to make it much more stable, and easier to keep true.
Thanks for sharing your real world experience with the tool.
Nice to get input from someone who owns the machine, vs. a salesman.

-- John

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RogR

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#12 posted 09-03-2017 04:42 AM


The drum head on the new supermax is fixed, not adjustable. All the adjusting is in the table, and looked pretty easy.

I would be concerned about this if I planned to sand long stock. I find the outfeed extension table elevation to be critical, and readjusting that every time I adjusted the sanding height would be a nightmare.

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bigJohninvegas

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#13 posted 09-03-2017 04:59 AM


I would be concerned about this if I planned to sand long stock. I find the outfeed extension table elevation to be critical, and readjusting that every time I adjusted the sanding height would be a nightmare.

No I think you miss understand or I did not explain what I was told properly.
When you are setting up the machine for the 1st time. The table has all the adjustment to true up the machine.
Make it sand the same thickness all the way across. Lets say the board you are sanding is not coming out the same thickness all the way across.
Thst adjustment is done at the table. And should in theory only need to be done once.
Once the new machine is tuned up and running, you still move the drum with a hand crank.

-- John

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#14 posted 09-03-2017 06:55 PM



No I think you miss understand or I did not explain what I was told properly.

Once the new machine is tuned up and running, you still move the drum with a hand crank.

- bigJohninvegas


I did misunderstand. I have a closed Jet 22-44 – it came flat and has never needed adjustment.

Jet / Supermax/ Powermatic .. these all seem to be clones with identical specs. Unless you are partial to a color, I think I would just select on price and availability.

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AlexGefilte

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#15 posted 09-06-2017 04:08 PM

I ended up going with the JET 1632. Talked to quite a few store owners and many said that JET was really making an effort to innovate the category and make their prices more competitive. Seemed like minus the conveyor bed size, the tools square up well against each other. Not concerned about the plastic dust hood as it is thick and no large chips will be impacting it (Plus it has a 5 year warranty). Supermax also switched to a plastic hood on their new sander, so it doesn’t seem like much of a concern.

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