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Forum topic by Waldschrat posted 01-19-2011 03:14 PM 1640 views 4 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Waldschrat

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01-19-2011 03:14 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tip resource refurbishing

I just discovered some drawings that I made for a Forum that I can not longer find… It was a discusion about making your own windows… These are just some simple cross sections of the windows, to help people see how they goe together and keep as much warmth in and help keep drafts out. These windows are made so that they open all the way, with hinges (euro style), The Frame itself should be made out some weather resistant (local) wood, if possible, like oak, Douglas fir, Larch/tamarack, locust….

Being that its winter now, energie prices are going up, this might be helpfull, especially to those living in the North!

Well stay warm everyone! (as I am sitting at the moment in a very old house in a room with an original “un-sealed” window, brrrr its drafty in here!

-- Nicholas, Cabinet/Furniture Maker, Blue Hill, Maine


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#1 posted 01-19-2011 05:46 PM

Here’s the original post. Great discussion. http://lumberjocks.com/topics/9340

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Waldschrat

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#2 posted 01-19-2011 06:26 PM

Thanks! for the link! I must look closer at my comment list…. it was far back.

-- Nicholas, Cabinet/Furniture Maker, Blue Hill, Maine

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#3 posted 01-19-2011 08:40 PM

I am still getting a lot of offlist questions about this topic, so it seems it there is a lot of interest. Thanks for posting these additional schematics

I am still having trouble sourcing the parts for the tilt/turn window here in New Zealand. The ‘lousy, aluminum window frame’ lobby seems very strong here as does awareness of well performing windows, though double-glazing at least is becoming known now.

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!

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#4 posted 01-19-2011 11:07 PM

Thanks Nicholas, I followed the original post and now this one with much interest. Windows are my very next project. I’m making double hung windows however, with vertically sliding sashes (on spring balances). While I’ve got old drawings on how this style of window was done, certainly introducing modern double glazing and ensuring that the windows are as insulated and weatherproof as a modern window is an interesting challenge.

Is this type of window ever used in Germany? Do you have any information on how it would be most efficiently done?

cheers,
Craig

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Waldschrat

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#5 posted 01-20-2011 09:01 PM

Daltxguy, Sorry to hear that the aluminium mafia is so strong in your area!

Craig Ambrose Yes, and yes. by your second question what exactly do you mean by “most efficiently” as far as building or installing or the glass? I can take a shot at those sort of things.

-- Nicholas, Cabinet/Furniture Maker, Blue Hill, Maine

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#6 posted 06-16-2011 02:37 AM

interesting post, as I was looking to make true German style windows. I was wondering if you know historically when this style came in. I have been to Germany, Rothenburg, Frankfurt and around. I also saw a similar type in Switzerland, where I recall they lapped the doors too. I saw this in France also, but never in the US. I have worked on many old houses and museums for dead presidents, early 1700 dutch, German and English and never saw this style, yet it is all over Germany (in swing windows) and now the tilt and turn.
I can get tilt and turn hardware in Russia, not in USA.. so I am looking to make all my windows for a German style half timber house Do you have pics of old hinge layout before tilt and turn? Any prewar windows left in tact?
thanks
eaglewrangler

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Waldschrat

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#7 posted 06-25-2011 10:36 AM

eaglewrangler,

Hello, Which war? (if you mean ww2 then yeah there are a ton, if you mean ww1 then yeah there are still some around but getting rarer, if you mean any of the wars before those, I guess you would have to be more specific)

I could make a picture of a window that I assume was built with the house that I live in (around 1912), its just a simple pivoting window that opens inward. Something older I could look and take a pic and post it , it would take bit. older windows are getting harder find because they are not that energy efficient and many have been replaced in the past 30 years or so.

Being that most homes here are as you mentioned made out of either stone or wood or both, there are different kinds of hings, there are the ones that were definitely in use throughout the 19th century and up into the 1950s and thats the “Fischand” or “Fitschband” and they are mortised in to the widow sash and window frame secured with nails or screws or even dowels. ( I made a blog on these which you can check out as they have not changed much in the past 200 years and I tried to document how one mounts them)

There are also hinges that are “mortered” into the wall or anchored with cement and the window piece is a large “L” that is screwed or bolted directly on the Window.

Here is a website that handles old hardware in germany

If you want some original pics I will try and get some or some original drawings of older built in fixtures (as luck would have it I happen to collect old German textbooks of architecture and woodworking and that sort of thing)

Keep me updated if you have any further questions

-- Nicholas, Cabinet/Furniture Maker, Blue Hill, Maine

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