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docspencer

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08-28-2017 08:35 PM

Well, its been a while since I visited with you all. I retired this past May from Purdue and we moved to Maryland. I no longer have the shop in a barn and am temporarily setting up shop (literally) in the basement. Best as I can tell, all the equipment made it intact ad they even let me bring my lumber. Score…..

The reason for my post today is this – with the shop in the basement dust collection is now a priority. My wife is not happy about me bringing it up into the house. I’m no a strict budget (being retired and all) and I’ve been looking at the Grizzly G8027. Does anyone have any experience with this one? How well does it work? Any other recommendations in the $200-$300 range I should look at?

No matter what DC I get, I’d like some advice on how to use it with my table saw (a Ridgid), router on a table, drill press, etc. Any advice?

Thanks!


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#1 posted 08-28-2017 08:47 PM

A 1 hp dust collector will have pretty low performance and low capability to capture all the dust. It would be easier to understand your needs of we had a better idea what tools you have.

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#2 posted 08-28-2017 08:59 PM

My impression is that many people have good luck with a HF DC with a Wynn filter.

My recommendation is to spend enough to get an adequate DC solution. Economize elsewhere if necessary. For me it makes a huge difference on how much I like working in the shop.

-- Greg D.

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#3 posted 08-28-2017 09:35 PM

Doc, I agree that dust collecting might not be the best place to economize. I also have a basement shop and have found that I can keep a lot of sawdust in the shop by either vacuuming myself off or by using compressed air to blow the dust off before I head upstairs. FWIW

-- Art

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#4 posted 08-28-2017 10:14 PM

I started with the 1 HP DC and then a buddy gave me an older 2 HP Grizzly (G1029 I think, there is no model # on it).

With a 1 HP DC, and the fact that you are in a small basement, you probably are not going to be running multiple pipes and blast gates. I think the reason the 1 HP Griz is on wheels is it is intended to be placed right next to each piece of equipment and operating with less than 8’ of 4” flex pipe. Wheel it to each piece of equipment and hook it up, then unhook and put it away.

To get the pressure and CFM’s up to allow to to put a DC in the corner, hard pipe equipment and operate everything on blast gates really takes a 1500 cfm/2 hp or larger machine.

Anything smaller, at least for me, operates as a portable DC. As Greg mentioned above, look at the Harbor Freight models, and build a Thein baffle. Right now on Amazon the 2 HP Central Macherinery is only $180 + $60 shipping. They have been getting some good reviews here on LJ. Probably the best bang for the buck.

Take the ±$100 savings on the DC and put it towards an Air Filter for the basement. The wife will appreciate that just as much, after you hit yourself with the compressed air before going up the stairs.

-- Jeff ~ Tacoma Wa.

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#5 posted 08-28-2017 10:20 PM

after you hit yourself with the compressed air before going up the stairs

Please don’t shoot yourself with compressed air. It really isn’t safe. Much safer to use a cheap electric leaf blower.

-- Greg D.

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#6 posted 08-28-2017 10:47 PM

I have my shop in the basement and as you said, bringing dust upstairs is a big problem. I bought a dust collector on CL and it has worked out very well. It is a 2hp Harbor Freight collector with a Thein baffle and a Winn filter. I stuck it in the corner and ran pvc across the ceiling to the other side of the shop. I have two 4 in flex hoses running off the pvc to different tool “areas” of the shop. Blast gates can easily be opened and shut to control the air. Each of my tools has a set up where I can quickly connect the 4in hose. It has made a HUGE difference. I also bought an air cleaner which I put in the center of the shop ceiling and I run it all the time I am working. It moves the air around and collects any dust that escapes the HF system. Those two additions have greatly improved the air quality in the basement and kept the dust at a minimum from coming upstairs. My big issue now is the stuff that comes up on my shoes. I now have dedicated shop shoes that I leave at the bottom of the steps. If I remember to take them off, little dust makes it upstairs. And of course, my HUSBAND is much happier not having dust and wood chips tracked all over the house.

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docspencer

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#7 posted 08-29-2017 12:07 PM

The dedicated shop shoes are a great idea gailmo.

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#8 posted 08-29-2017 12:37 PM

Hey Doc, welcome to MD, was just in Lafayette moving my eldest daughter into Purdue, I’m in the southern MD area below DC.

I’ve got a Ridgid saw, and have put a 4” hood in the bottom of the saw cabinet and closed/sealed as many openings as possible. My 1.5 hp Steel City DC is connected to each tool with a flex hose and does a good job at the TS except when making cuts under an 1/8”, the blade throws it everywhere, but with all of my equipment being mobile, I’ve never looked to add an overarm collection, I just use a brush to clean it up and vacuum it up when I move the DC hose

My router is in a wing on my saw, I’ve built a fence with a dust hood on the back which does catch quite a bit of the dust when doing edge work. I need to add a box surround on the motor under the saw to catch dust from cuts when the bit is covered fillets dados etc.

The drill press is usually making pretty large chips and I generally just connect a hose and vacuum up after drilling. On the rare occasions when I have a lot of drilling to do I’ve used a small bungee cord to connect the 4” hose to the table, which catches a fair bit of the chips.

You didn’t mention the miter saw, which is the most difficult to catch the dust from. My MS is on a second line to the DC and I built a shroud around the back to gather and collect the dust, it’s better but after the router it’s the messiest tool to contain.

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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#9 posted 08-29-2017 12:38 PM


And of course, my HUSBAND is much happier not having dust and wood chips tracked all over the house.

- gailmo

ROFL! Thanks for the last – we (I) forget that this is not an exclusive male domain. And I agree with the add’l air filter. I run a Delta 50-860 with a 1micron bag and a Honeywell HEPA filter on top of my JET DC1100-MVX with a 1 micron canister. With all that on the air in the basement is cleaner than the kitchen. Not much gets away but I too have “Shop Shoes”.

-- Bill - Rochester MI

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#10 posted 08-29-2017 12:44 PM

I could never get enough air moving with a 4” system and struggled until I read Bill Pentz. Building his system was a bit complicated, but the results are amazing. My shop is also in the basement, and, since installing it and piping to each machine with blast gates I built with micro switches to turn on the DC when I pulled them open I don’t even have dust on my TV screen, which is right above the belt/disc sander.
Its the really fine dust that’s the enemy and it takes a lot of air movement to trap it all, and with the Pentz system I very rarely have to clean the dust drawer on my filters, its all in the bin.
Building it all myself kept the cost down with the big purchases being the motor(3HP}, impeller(Oneida aluminum), and Filters(AAF 1 micron, I think). Made the dust bin out of one of those blue plastic drums everyones making rain barrels out of.
Some things you just have to spend on. I’ve always struggled with allergies and oak dust just kills me, but I love working with it.

-- Rockhound: You realize we're sitting on 45,000 pounds of fuel, one nuclear warhead and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder? Makes you feel good doesn't it?

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#11 posted 08-29-2017 12:48 PM

I don’t have any advise on a DC system but Congratulations on your retirement!!

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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