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richardchaos

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08-27-2017 02:27 PM

I bought some equipment from LOWES last week. Some 3/4 pipe clamps and a Sliding square. Three of the clamps were not THREADED! and the Square was not SQUARE!

Is it really too much to demand squares be square and the pipe clamps be machines to screw onto a pipe??

IS that really too much to ask!????


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#1 posted 08-27-2017 02:57 PM


I bought some equipment from LOWES last week. Some 3/4 pipe clamps and a Sliding square. Three of the clamps were not THREADED! and the Square was not SQUARE!

Is it really too much to demand squares be square and the pipe clamps be machines to screw onto a pipe??

IS that really too much to ask!????

- richardchaos

You didn’t check? I never buy a square without checking it. Never assume…

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richardchaos

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#2 posted 08-27-2017 03:39 PM

I bought some equipment from LOWES last week. Some 3/4 pipe clamps and a Sliding square. Three of the clamps were not THREADED! and the Square was not SQUARE!

Is it really too much to demand squares be square and the pipe clamps be machines to screw onto a pipe??

IS that really too much to ask!????

- richardchaos

You didn t check? I never buy a square without checking it. Never assume…

- JackDuren

I DO NOW!

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#3 posted 08-27-2017 03:59 PM

You are not alone…..I did the same thing with a framing square. I bought, got home used it, and found out it wasn’t square…

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#4 posted 08-27-2017 05:36 PM

Are the pipe clamps Irwin, by chance? The newish Irwin clamps are designed to be used on non-threaded pipe.

Just a thought.

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#5 posted 09-03-2017 03:31 PM

One of the more important things I learned a few decades ago was how to check a carpenter square for square and then how to correct the tool if not. The square can easily be knocked out of square by improper use, storage, or dropping.

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#6 posted 09-03-2017 03:43 PM

I went to a box store and took a whole pile(8 framing squares) over to the lumber department to check for square, not one was square.

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#7 posted 09-03-2017 05:06 PM

Really not surprised. As far as the square is concerned I am guessing you are speaking of a carpenters square. These are inexpensive and are intended for generic carpentry use. Think framing and such. They can be off and it hardly matters. For furniture grade projects where absolute square is needed these are so so. They can be made square as another poster stated. For many years this was the only square I ever had and it worked, mostly. BEARPAW set me straight on getting more precision out of my work by utilizing combination squares, and set up of machinery by using machinist squares. It does make a difference. Several manufactures of decent to high end combo squares exist. I was given a Starrett by my Father few years back. Normally out of the price I would pay but free is always best. It is a excellent square and when such exacting precision is needed this is my go to square. Other less expensive units exist and can be found for much cheaper.

My .02 cents worth anyway.

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#8 posted 09-03-2017 05:47 PM

I started buying from The Yard Store when I was working on aircraft cabinets. The squares they sell have always been dead on accurate and reasonably priced.
http://www.yardstore.com/precision-measuring-tools/squares.html

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#9 posted 09-04-2017 02:33 PM


You are not alone…..I did the same thing with a framing square. I bought, got home used it, and found out it wasn t square…

- JackDuren

The two things to test at the store before buying are levels and squares (any square, especially those long drywall squares!).

A quick test for levels is to place it on a straight surface (vertical or horizontal), note where the bubble meets the markings, flip it (end for end), then verify that the bubble is in the exact same position.

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richardchaos

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#10 posted 09-04-2017 03:03 PM

I think that before the fall of ROME all their squares and levels were not square and level!

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#11 posted 09-07-2017 12:53 AM

Not only that, they had to use Roman numerals to do all their engineering.

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#12 posted 09-07-2017 02:34 PM

Did you buy assembled pipe clamps, or the pipe clamp hardware and the pipes separate? If the latter, most of the hardware stores near me will thread the ends for you on the black pipe – Home Depot did a bunch for me

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