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R3donkulas

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08-25-2017 03:39 PM

Hello,

So I am a new member and a newer woodworker. I have built mostly cutting boards and some small boxes. I currently have a table top saw form a big box store that isn’t “cutting” it anymore. I notice the flex and accuracy aren’t there. So I am planning on buy a table saw. From research it seems best is to buy used and everyone seems to point to a DELTA UNISAW. Well I have a chance to buy one its an hour from me and the guy wants 1,500.00 for it but said he would take 1,400.00. It comes with a Delta air cleaner and some others. I do know it is a 1999 Delta Platinum edition. I have added the CL link below to it. Can anyone let me know if this is a good deal or if I should keep looking.

https://rochester.craigslist.org/tls/6243733608.html

Delta table saw (Model #36-945) with 50” Commercial Biesemeyer Fence System. It also has the add on Delux Uniguard system (Model #34-976)

Another option I may have is a Powermatic 66 but it cost more and the guy doesn’t seem like he will budge from 2,200.00.

https://syracuse.craigslist.org/tls/d/powermatic-table-saw/6263182496.html


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jonah

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#1 posted 08-25-2017 03:56 PM

I don’t think either one is a good deal, for a few reasons.

- The Unisaw is an older, right tilt machine. Not a deal breaker by any stretch, but inferior to left tilt.

- The talk about “a business” makes me wonder if it’s been used in a commercial environment. That’s not a deal breaker either, but a factor in that it’s likely been used harder and could have not been maintained properly.

- $1400 is very steep considering you can get a brand new, left tilt, riving-knife-equipped Grizzly 1023 for about $1500 delivered to your door. Or, you can even get a brand new Unisaw for ~$2500.

The Powermatic is an absurdly high price for a used saw, even a top notch one like the 66. A brand new PM2000 is ~$3000

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R3donkulas

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#2 posted 08-25-2017 04:42 PM

Jonah,

Thanks for the information as I though it was steep as well. I wouldn’t even consider the 66 that guy has as I knew it was high. Maybe I will go with a Grizzly but liked that Delta. In your opinion what would be a good deal price for it?

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AZWoody

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#3 posted 08-25-2017 05:09 PM

It all depends on location. I would probably pay $800 and $1000 at most and that is if I really needed it.
The cleaner adds some value but honestly, not that much to me. Does it also come with blades? Other accessories that he doesn’t mention?

I doubt that guy would go for that but I always try to get the low end on any pricing.

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Loren

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#4 posted 08-25-2017 05:15 PM

Considering the age of both saws and the
fact that newer models with riving knives are
out now, I think the asking prices are steep.

If I were shopping for a cabinet saw I would
only offer around $1000 for the Unisaw. You
won’t get far making such offers if you’re not
willing to walk away. I always make an offer
over the phone, not on the spot. Unless the
machine has been misrepresented I work out
the price with the seller before driving to look.

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Fred Hargis

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#5 posted 08-25-2017 06:48 PM

Another vote for too high (on both). I had that same Unisaw (with a Unifence instead of the Bies) and I only paid $1450 new with a mobile base in 2001. The Uniguard may be worth something, but not much. I’ve seen PM’s bring as much as $1600 and I felt that was too much. His price is really over the top. That said, if either one gets that much then I guess they were worth what was asked. I sold my Uni with a whole lot more extras for $1000 and felt that was about the market for it. The PM I value at around $1200-$1400, but that might be a tad low for a lot of areas.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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MrUnix

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#6 posted 08-25-2017 06:52 PM

You can usually get an idea of where the price is by looking at how long they have sat out there… the Unisaw has been out there for almost a month, and the PM for almost two weeks. Good deals go in days, really good deals go in hours. The exception to that rule is when the damn owner sells the machine and doesn’t remove the ad, so it just sits there until it expires on its own :(

Although you can use that fact as a negotiation point… if the seller isn’t getting any serious inquires and it’s been sitting out there for a while, they are a bit more motivated to drop the price in order to get it sold. Bottom line is that it never hurts to throw out an offer for what YOU think it’s worth and how much you are willing to spend. They can always just say no, or just ignore you. No harm, no foul, and there will always others showing up in the future.

And just an FYI – the “Platinum Edition” saws were just a marketing campaign. Basically just gave them a custom paint color and threw in a couple of goodies to sweeten the deal. There is nothing inherently special about them unless you just like the paint color :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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R3donkulas

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#7 posted 08-25-2017 06:54 PM

Thanks for the advise everyone big help. I told the guy with the Powermatic I would give him 1300 for it and he response was

“I have already declined an offer for $2000. Perhaps that wasn’t prudent, but I know it has a higher value”

With that said I may try to get the Unisaw for 1000.00 and if not I will walk away and keep looking. May even go for a new Grizzly.

I plan on posting my works here and if I have anymore pop up and need advise I know where to go. Thanks again for all your time and knowledge!!!!!

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splintergroup

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#8 posted 08-25-2017 07:05 PM

I have the exact same year Unisaw, purchased new. I can’t remember what I paid, but as others have said here, you should be able to negotiate for a discount. Not mentioned, but I assume it is a hp motor.

It’s a great saw, well built. The only gripe I have with mine is the typical Delta oversized miter slots. A few thousandths over 0.750”. The problem is that 99% of aftermarket accessories for miter slots are actually a few thousandths undersized to guarantee they will fit “tight” saws (Craftsman comes to mind).

Net result is having to dink around with these accessories to improve their fit.

Just my $0.02 8^)

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jonah

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#9 posted 08-25-2017 07:19 PM



Thanks for the advise everyone big help. I told the guy with the Powermatic I would give him 1300 for it and he response was “I have already declined an offer for $2000. Perhaps that wasn t prudent, but I know it has a higher value”

With that said I may try to get the Unisaw for 1000.00 and if not I will walk away and keep looking. May even go for a new Grizzly.

I plan on posting my works here and if I have anymore pop up and need advise I know where to go. Thanks again for all your time and knowledge!!!!!

- R3donkulas


That sounds like bullshit from the PM owner. $1000 would be my top offer for the Delta. Maybe offer $900 and be prepared to pay $1000?

The air cleaner and guard add little value IMO.

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R3donkulas

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#10 posted 08-25-2017 08:37 PM

I offered 900 to the guy with the Delta Unisaw and he said 1000 without the air cleaner. I think I may jump on it. With that said when I go to get it is there anything previous owners can tell me to look for that I should away from it if I see. I know from the picture provided it looks clean and in good shape.

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Carloz

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#11 posted 08-25-2017 08:38 PM

“I have already declined an offer for $2000. Perhaps that wasn t prudent, but I know it has a higher value”
- R3donkulas

He is bluffing.

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PNW_Steve

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#12 posted 08-25-2017 09:29 PM

Patience…..

I shopped for a good used saw for almost a year and finally gave up and asked here for advice on “the best new saw for under $1000” after much discussion I hit CraigsList again and found a nice Unisaw with several blades, 2 dado stacks, zero clearance and dado inserts, a nice outfeed table, a 52” ShopFox fence and other accessories.

The seller even loaded it in my trailer for me.

Damage? $750, a 7 hour round trip drive to pick it up and finally $25 to have a forklift from the local lumber yard come over and unload it.

I feel like I got a pretty fair deal.

Good Luck!!

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Planeman40

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#13 posted 08-26-2017 01:03 PM

For what its worth, my “rule of thumb” for buying used machinery (most of my shop is previously used machines) is if a used machine is in tip top almost like new condition, it is value is 1/2 of the price of a new equivalent machine. From there the worth goes downward according to the wear and tear, rust, and problems.

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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splintergroup

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#14 posted 08-26-2017 01:06 PM

R3, loosen the height/angle wheel locks and run the saw up/down and throughout the full tilt range. “Feel” for smooth operation, no binding. Best if you can power it up without a blade and listen for and untoward rattling.
Fence should hide smoothly end-to-end, check the corners of the fence where it rides the rail, these sometimes get dropped and dinged up corners are a sign.

If it does follow you home, do a complete “setup”, squaring everything up, before starting to play 8^)

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jimintx

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#15 posted 08-26-2017 01:48 PM

I have a 1999 Unisaw. I am stating that up front, so you folks can write what you want about me being biased.

I think getting that saw for $1,000 is a very good deal and I would not hesitate. That saw and the included accessories will make a fine tool. You can see in the photos that it is in superb condition which means no rust to clean up, and indicates a caring owner for the life of the machine.

I personally cannot even imagine comparing that option to ordering a Grizzly saw and hoping the delivery works out as well as I would hope. If something happened to mine today, and I was in your area, I would be going to that seller and offering at least $1,200 to outbid you, R3.

Further, that air filter system is a very nice addition to any shop. Several brands are available, and they sell for nominally $400. I have one hanging on my shop ceiling, and so do many other wood workers that are sensitive or concerned in any way about dust in the air. And it also creates a very nice flow of air in the shop when I run it, so it helps with temperature control. I am very happy to have mine, so I would tell you to offer him something to get that air filter as well. If I were to do that, I would hang it on the ceiling, and free up that storage space under the saw extension wing.

I do not buy the arguments on either side of the right tilt vs left tilt discussion. You can work with either just fine, and with either there will be times the other would be better. There are many ways to work safely with a TS that lacks a riving knife. If you have one and don’t use those safety methods, you are courting trouble. I’d never be cavalier and drop my concern because i had that device.

I say go get it fast before someone else does. And regardless of how long it has been listed, someone will go buy it.

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-- Jim, Houston, TX

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