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ColonelTravis

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08-25-2017 01:45 AM

Topic tags/keywords: mock-up

This would probably be just for larger items, curious if you build a prototype or mock-up first? Making a desk and I worked out some templates for a couple things but not the whole thing. Wondering if anyone prefers a mock-up always, sometimes, never?


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#1 posted 08-25-2017 01:48 AM

Once in a while.

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#2 posted 08-25-2017 02:00 AM

Maybe certain parts in order to build jigs and dial it in before the real deal. Like for angled mortises and tenons.

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#3 posted 08-25-2017 02:02 AM

I’ve done it for seating mostly. In addition
to clarifying ergonomic and construction issues,
it can be a way to get “bad” design ideas out
of your system.

If there’s a great deal of labor or material
cost at risk in building something that’s a
bit of a risk design-wise, a mock-up can
save some future face-palming moments.

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#4 posted 08-25-2017 02:05 AM

Not usually for wood stuff, but frequently when doing metalworking. For example, I made this prototype out of 1/4” plywood to measure angles/offsets required for a lifting caster bracket I was making:

Once I dialed it in, then the final project was welded up:

Sure is a lot easier to modify and tweak stuff made out of wood first, than it is to do the same with metal :)

Cheers,
Brad

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#5 posted 08-25-2017 02:07 AM

Sketchup handles about 90% of anything I need to see.
Sometime I may make a mock up of a certain type of joint or cut to see how it works, but not that often.

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#6 posted 08-25-2017 02:13 AM

1+ what Loren said. Seating especially.

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ColonelTravis

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#7 posted 08-25-2017 02:25 AM

I enjoy looking at sketch-up things, man I hate to design in it. Chalk it up to me having no patience.

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#8 posted 08-25-2017 03:14 AM

Depending on the project I might make a prototype. Usually it is functional but lacks the finish fit and polish the completed project comes out as. Several friends are the proud owners of such projects / tools.

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#9 posted 08-25-2017 04:48 AM

I use partial mock ups to adjust proportions and get input from my wife.

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#10 posted 08-25-2017 05:07 AM

+1 on SketchUp. Most of my jigs involve a prototype followed by the final piece.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#11 posted 08-25-2017 05:44 AM

I made this mock-up to give my client a 3D view of my design and to check the strength of the open apron design. I still have this one, pieced up out of Arbutus (Madrone), and will eventually veneer it.

She liked the idea and the finished tables looked like this.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/105156

So yes, I do make mock-ups sometimes for a specific purpose.

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#12 posted 08-25-2017 10:26 AM

I did it once, for a corner TV cabinet. I was able to get the angles and proportions right before I built the real one. It was the only time I found a good use for Chinese plywood, which eventually became kindling for a hunting trip.

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DS

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#13 posted 08-25-2017 04:30 PM

There are two situations, for me, when I will do a mock-up;

1) When there is an unproven element being explored for the first time. (Like shipwright’s apron—Very nice Paul BTW)
I did a bi-folding bookcase wall once with a new, complicated hinging method (Hidden room beyond) Mocked it up in basic plywood to prove it would actually work before committing to more expensive veneers and lumber.

2) When I am making 10 or more of an item. The first one is always used to work out any problems and make whatever adjustments that may be needed before the rest of the material is committed. This is a generally good idea, but more for larger production runs than a one-off piece.

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ColonelTravis

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#14 posted 08-25-2017 05:21 PM

awesome, ok I understand the why’s behind it better.
Thank you.

Paul – beautiful tables, I’d missed that when you first showed them.

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#15 posted 08-25-2017 06:29 PM

I have never built a mock up of anything. I only build one off projects. I do make a pattern piece if I need several parts to match exactly.

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