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01-16-2011 11:40 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw router

#1 – I purchased a Ryobi 1/2” 2HP plunge router at Christmas time that I haven’t used yet but noticed when I got the router home it has a little “rock” in the plunge that concerns me. I have never owned or used a plunge router before so I don’t know if this is normal or not. Is it?

#2 – I am looking at a Ryobi 9” bandsaw and was wondering if there is anyone out here that had any insight to this particular piece of equipment before I buy it. I don’t have a lot of money so I can’t buy one of those $500+ saws but don’t want to buy something I’ll regret later either. It’s use would be primarily light as I don’t get out to the garage as often as I would like to.

I have had one of those 7 piece cordless sets by Ryobi for about 3 years and have been quite pleased with it which is why I bought the router and am considering the saw.

any thoughts would be welcome and appreciated.

Roger

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#1 posted 01-17-2011 12:47 AM

greta icon roger

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#2 posted 01-17-2011 01:12 AM

I had a cheap 10” Delta 3 wheel type bandsaw and it was not worth the time it took to trash it.
- plastic wheels.
- 1/5 hp motor
- flimsy blade guide
- aluminum table
I replaced it with a Rikon 10” bandsaw I got on sale at Woodcrafter for $180.
- die cast wheels
- 1/3 hp motor
- extruded blade guide with roller bearings.
- cast iron table
- rip fence
The Delta was not accurate, could not be adjusted, warped out of allignment by itself.
The Rikon feels like a real tool. It works exactly as you would expect it to.

I think you get what you pay for.

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#3 posted 01-17-2011 03:14 AM

I had a Ryobi BS900 for a couple of years. With a decent blade it cut reasonably well within it’s capacity limits. It doesn’t have much power, had very little cutting height (~ 3” IIRC), is very lightweight and easy to top, and vibrates a bit. I think you might be better off with the 10” Rikon or 10” Craftsman (Rikon clone) if you can find the right deal. You might also find that many of the cuts that the Ryobi will handle can also be done with a jig saw.

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#4 posted 01-17-2011 03:36 AM

For your router, check to see the rocking goes away when locked into position. I had a Skil plunge router that did pretty much the same thing, but was stable once locked. Still, in my experience, a little extra spent for a good quality router is money well spent. I’ve never used that bandsaw, but, I have looked at it in the stores and it looks to be very cheaply made. I wouldn’t waste my money for that. I too, like most of us, don’t have unlimited budget. I have had good luck finding good buys on used equipment. I suggest watching the classifieds and craigslist for some good deals. I just bought a very nice jointer for only $125. The deals are out there you just have to be patient.

Doc

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#5 posted 01-17-2011 04:11 AM

I bought several Ryobi tools in the beginning, planer, cordless drill, bandsaw, tablesaw, scrollsaw, detail sander, belt sander, and probably a couple of others I’m forgetting. With the exception of the planer, every single one of them either died a premature death, or aggrevated me to the point that I gave them away just to get them out of my shop.
Do I regret my purchasing them? Although I really want to tell you yes, I’m afraid that I don’t regret the Ryobi purchases simply because without those cheap tools, I’d have never gotten into woodworking. There was just no way I could have afforded better tools in the beginning.
In some cases, the Ryobi tools helped me, in a funny sort of way. I do a lot of scroll saw work. My first scroll saw was a Ryobi. That was absolutely the worst tool I’d ever used. Of course I didn’t know that at the time. The blade holders did everything except hold the blade. It bounced around from the excess vibration so bad that I may as well have been scrolling in the back of a moving pickup truck. In the end though, after completely wearing that saw out, I bought a Delta. I am still using that Delta. After using the Ryobi in the beginning though, I feel like I can cut ANYTHING on my Delta, no matter how detailed the pattern is. If I can cut a straight line while chasing a Ryobi saw across the floor in a vibrating frenzy, the Delta is a dream to work with.
Some Ryobi tools I really wish you would stear away from if at all possible. The best example of this would be the table saw. I know a good table saw is hard to come by, but if you wind up with a Ryobi table saw like the one I had, it is an accident waiting to happen. It jerked so bad when you switched it on that the saw and stand actually jumped over an inch off the floor. The fence was a joke, and a bad one at that. If you were extra careful, you could set it up to make a straight cut without binding too bad. The bad thing was though that you had to go through all the set up procedures for your next cut too. It was a nightmare. It slung wood at me on more than one occasion. It’s a wonder that thing never caused me any serious harm.
I completely understand being on a tight budget. I want to tell you what I’ve told several woodworkers though. You can easily get by with hand held power tools for most project while you save up to get at least a decent piece of equipment. Let’s talk table saws. You’ll need a circular saw at some point whether you have a table saw or not. Why not buy a good one now. You can cut anything you would normally cut on a table saw with it. While doing so, you can save up for a decent table saw. The same can be said for most stationary tools. A jig saw will do what a cheap band saw will do. A handheld belt sander will do what a stationary one will do. A handheld drill will do what a cheap drill press will do. I’m not advising these handheld tools will do the job of quality stationary equipment. They won’t. They will allow you to build projects while saving for quality equipment though. On top of that, trust me, I know this from experience, they will also help you build the skills you need to build things even better later on, after you have a shop full of nice tools.

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#6 posted 01-17-2011 04:34 AM

Ryobi bandsaw would work great for small cuts, its great for arts and craft.
I will probably will get one for myself also.

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#7 posted 01-17-2011 05:01 AM

@Doc… Yes the rock goes away when it is locked which is why I haven’t already returned it. I know there has to be clearance on moving parts for them to work without binding but it just seemed a bit much. But like I stated earlier, I have no knowledge of this subject to reflect on.

@Scott & William… sounds like good advice. I don’t do a lot of heavy cutting in hard wood but I’m sure I would try and I have already owned underpowered tools in the past. I am designing a dollhouse for my grand-daughter’s barbies, which is what my icon is, and there will be a lot of intricate pieces that using a jigsaw will be out of the question. That is why I was considering purchasing a band saw although I do have a scroll saw that would probably work well for that. Perhaps I should hang onto my money for other things. Like wood!

I do have to say that I am a firm believer in the old saying that you get what you pay for which is why I posted this question.

Thank you for your opinions and experience.
Roger

-- >> my shop teacher used to say "do the best at everything you make for your mom because you're going to see it for the rest of your life!" <<

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#8 posted 01-17-2011 05:10 AM

I have a 9” bandsaw and i think it’s cool for cutting anything under 3” it’s all good but i got mine for free so there is really no complaint here. I also got other tools in the deal too.

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#9 posted 01-17-2011 05:11 AM

What kind of scroll saw do you have? I am a little biased, but a scroll saw will do pretty much anything you want until you can get a better bandsaw than the Ryobi. I currently use a Delta SS250, but once went a long ways with a Ryobi scroll saw. If you don’t mind chasing the saw all around the shop, the Ryobi will do a lot. I wore the bearings completely out on the old Ryobi before upgrading to the Delta.
You can use a scroll saw as a band as long as the material isn’t too thick, and I don’t believe anything you need to cut for a doll house will be too thick.
Put you blade into your scroll saw just like you normally would. Now, using two pairs of pliers, grab the blade on two places, as low as you can and as high as you can. Now turn the blade 45 degrees to the left or right, depending on which way you wish to cut. As long as you are using a quality blade (I suggest Flying Dutchman blades from here) it will bend easily without breaking. Now you have a sort of a miniature band saw. Yes it cuts a lot slower than most band saws, but that just means you can control your cut easier.

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#10 posted 01-17-2011 05:15 AM

I have that Ryobi bandsaw. I love it. It was pretty crap with the blade that came with it, but I got a mission-specific blade and it’s been wonderful. You mention the dollhouse….... I bought mine for MY dollhouse! :) It’s been absolutely PERFECT. I actually heavily considered a scrollsaw but ultimately decided for what I make, a bandsaw made more sense. I have lots and lots (and lots and lots) of tiny planks in my tiny wood storage.

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#11 posted 01-17-2011 05:17 AM

dremel. I have had it for several years and have no complaints. It is mounted to a piece of 3/4 mdf that I clamp to my table saw. no chasing.

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#12 posted 01-17-2011 05:20 AM

I don’t have any personal experience with it, but have look at the 14” BS that Harbor Freight carries. If you search on Lumberjocks people tend to have good things to say about it. It can also be had for a good price when it is on sale or when you get your hands on a 20% off coupon.

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#13 posted 01-17-2011 05:32 AM

I have 2 Ryobi sanders and I cant complain about them at all. They were cheap and they get the job done plus I can hook them up to dust collection.
As for the bandsaw I personaly would hold of on a small unit like the ryobi. I had a smaller bench top bandsaw that was lower in the price range like the Ryobi unit and it under preforms. I personaly would wait for a larger unit

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#14 posted 01-17-2011 06:49 AM

I have several Ryobi tools and am quite satisfied with all of them. They aren’t “top of the line”, but give a lot of bang for the buck.

I’ve used their “Corner Cat” detail sander for 5-6 years and get about two years out of one. When it craps out, the $30 for a replacement is nothing.

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#15 posted 01-17-2011 07:18 AM

I’ve had excellent service from all of my Ryobi stuff. Including an old 1.5 HP fixed base 1/4” collet router. I have looked at the band saw, and wasn’t particularly impressed with it, but I needed a much bigger saw to do what I wanted to do…

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