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Forum topic by Dez posted 01-16-2011 04:57 AM 933 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Dez

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01-16-2011 04:57 AM

Topic tags/keywords: jig question milling tablesaw humor

What do you call it?
I was working on a small project for my BIL – a display for one of his recent product developments.
One of the steps required edge banding to cover the plywood edge. Since all my regular stuff is in storage (read inaccessible), I made edge banding on the table saw – approx 1/16” thick, so I needed to make a form to clamp the edge banding until it cured.
During the cutting of the form I had to cut a right angle into the form to hold the part. (See the photos)
I placed the part on the tablesaw on my new crosscut sled, aligning the marks with the kerf in the sled and performed the cut. I used my judgment to stop the cut before it went past the intersection of the lines.
As you can see (I hope) one cut was exactly on and the other only went past by 1/16” or so.

What would you call it? I choose to call it skill (with a little bit of luck)!
Now you may disagree and that’s OK.
My wife says I have a fat head, but she says that about me far to often for it to be just luck!
LOL!!

The last picture is what the finished display will look like. (Minus the edge banding and a clear finish.)

-- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity!


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Lee Barker

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#1 posted 01-16-2011 06:37 AM

I think you slipped into your intuitive, artistic side. We don’t trust ourselves there, as a rule. We’re mostly in the analytical.

But magic happens in woodworking when you fall back into trusting your eyes and your hands.

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#2 posted 01-16-2011 06:53 AM

I’ll take luclk over skill any day :-)) Can’t win lotto on skill!

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#3 posted 01-16-2011 09:02 AM

oh it was skill…know the orientation of the boards verses where the cuts needed to end..and knowing where the blade was…yep…skill…...you big fatty you dez…....put a tape measure around your head at moments like that..get what we would call the skill reading…then take a measurement when you make a mistake…that will tell you for sure weather it was skill or luck…just like it is called…’‘DUMB LUCK’’........GRIZZ

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#4 posted 01-16-2011 11:18 AM

That is why I call it skill.

Lots of practice over a bunch of years can be applied in different situations even with different machines.
Exercising your judgement and practice will increase your skill.
Repeated (and especially successful) actions will improve your judgement and skill.
And to finish off all the BS – -

bentlyj – That is my hypotheses!

Lee – I have to agree. We all need to trust ourselves more – then check to make sure we are!

Topa – I’m not to sure about that, seems that some have a skill (or talent) for picking the right numbers or whatever. That doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t take all the luck I can find!

Grizz – I believe it was, however that doesn’t mean I don’t have a fat head, or that the size of my head doesn’t change from time to time!

Whatever the case I will continue to practice and keep believing in myself and my ability to do whatever it is that I set my mind to do!

-- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity!

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#5 posted 01-16-2011 11:38 AM

If you had the skill, you could pick the numbers on some kind of regular basis. If you have the luck, you can win. I have been beaten in rifle matches many times by people with considerably less skill (consistency) than I. All it takes a a little luck :-)) How many have skill vs luck?? :-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#6 posted 01-16-2011 11:41 AM

Topa – Good question! Maybe we can get our government to fund a study? If they haven’t already! LOL
Maybe I will do a little research, find out who the lucky ones are and befriend them!

-- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity!

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#7 posted 01-16-2011 12:02 PM

You need to put your efforts into finding your own luck, they might not want to share when you find them :-)

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#8 posted 01-16-2011 12:07 PM

I forgot to mention I was drilling a 1/4 pilot hole through a 10” concrete wall one time. I didn’t want it to spall out the way concrete will do when the bit breaks through, so I drilled from both sides. When I was drilling the 2nd side, the bit suddenly poked through the wall without any resistance. I had hit the hole dead center from both sides!! skill? :-)) :-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#9 posted 01-16-2011 01:17 PM

I would hope that I am not that un-lucky!
I would have to say that it was skill for sure! Maybe a little luck mixed in?

-- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity!

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#10 posted 01-16-2011 09:12 PM

Perhaps we need a new word here:
SKILLUCK
You will know when it’s all skill, then you cant get that big head through the door anymore, so you will have to stay in the work shop… lol.
Best thoughts,
MaFe

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#11 posted 01-16-2011 11:45 PM

Good one MaFe! LOL

-- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity!

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