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David

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08-16-2017 06:13 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane wood cutting board not so expensive

Hello,

I am relatively new to woodworking, I did build couple of tables and carved few spoons and so forth. But one thing I have real trouble with is planing a board. The other day I was trying to build a new cutting board for my son and I wanted to plane the edges and the top/bottom, I really had a rough time. I did buy a electric planer but that does not do the job well. I really cuts through the wood. I need something so I can straightened these boards. I don’t want to spend couple of hundred dollars, something that is good and last me a long time. I appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks so much

David

-- David Tab


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JCamp

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#1 posted 08-16-2017 06:20 PM

Others will surely weigh in but id recommend a Stanley Bailey #5. Shouldn’t be too expensive. For a $100 you could probably get a nice 4 5 and 6 as long as you don’t mind restoring them.
Worth mentioning that you should probably stay away from the Stanley handyman line of planes. Ive never owned one but most folks don’t like them
I think Sergeants, Miller falls and Winchester are also good brands

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WayneC

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#2 posted 08-16-2017 06:21 PM

Get a vintage Stanley #4 or #5. Look for one with a patent date behind the frog.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STANLEY-No-4-C-CORROGATED-SMOOTHING-PLANE-/162622313644?hash=item25dd0b94ac:g:4IUAAOSwutFZiSNn

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WayneC

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#3 posted 08-16-2017 06:23 PM

Some good info on Time Tested Tools.

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David

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#4 posted 08-16-2017 06:32 PM

I would rather get something new. Any suggestion, I don’t think I am able to restore these due to my lack of experience at this time.

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WayneC

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#5 posted 08-16-2017 06:36 PM

It is not hard to restore and sub $100 new planes may cause you more frustration than than you think. Sharpening can be done on a flat surface such as a table saw or float glass.

The one I linked above would not need restoration. Sharpen and go…

Actually let me find you a video.

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David

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#6 posted 08-16-2017 06:38 PM

OK. Thanks.

-- David Tab

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WayneC

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#7 posted 08-16-2017 06:38 PM

I would also argue for a smoothing plane before Jack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyV6IUpsYk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4yVgdVW7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6PTOyUyczM

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#8 posted 08-16-2017 06:41 PM


I would rather get something new. Any suggestion, I don t think I am able to restore these due to my lack of experience at this time.

- David

If you want new, Woodriver is about as low of a price as I’d go. Avoid new Stanley planes.

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/woodriver-5-bench-hand-plane-v3

Better quality would be Lie-Nielsen.

https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/standard-bench-planes/no.-5-jack-plane-?node=4171

You could also do bevel-up style from either Lie-Nielsen or Lee Valley
https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/bench-planes/low-angle-jack-plane?node=4065
http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=49708&cat=1,41182,52515

If you don’t want to spend the money above, then you’re going to have to look vintage.

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Loren

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#9 posted 08-16-2017 06:49 PM

Record makes a jack plane for about $100.

Grizzly makes one for about $40.

I assume the Grizzly is rough around the edges.

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#10 posted 08-16-2017 06:53 PM

I had a couple of old planes, Stanley #3 and Miller Falls #4) than I had tried to “restore” with terrible results. So, I bought a new Woodriver #5-1/2, a combo Norten water stone and el-cheapo sharpening jig/guide. With it, I was able to gain better knowledge of how a sharp, good setup plane felt and worked. The Woodcraft store manager spent some time with me doing initial setup on it. I also picked up a low angle block plane that he helped me with.

I’ve since gotten the Miller Falls tuned to decent shape. Someone here gave had tips on getting the chip breaker tuned which helped a lot. The depth adjustment knob has a lot of backlash and, when engaged, is very sensitive. So, it works better but I’m not yet happy with it.

The #3 has broken lateral adjustment and other issues, so I’ve not really worked on it anymore.

And, I wanted a jointer so I bought one from DonW at Time Tested Tools (see link in reply above). I as able to reassemble it, get it tweaked/tuned and it has been working great.

DonW does a great job restoring/reselling old planes. But, I think the experience I gained from having the Woodriver has allowed me to make best of my use with the #7 from him.

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#11 posted 08-16-2017 07:00 PM

Stanley # 4 and or #5 and a good block plane, 60 1/2. The planes will only be as good as the blades in them so learn how to sharpen them. Check out Bertha’s blog on sharpening.

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#12 posted 08-16-2017 07:23 PM

Thanks all.

-- David Tab

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#13 posted 08-16-2017 07:37 PM

The problem with restoring a plane is that you cannot do it if you don’t know how a properly tuned plane should feel. I would recommend getting an already tuned vintage #4 or #5 (the #5 is more versatile, but the #4 is better suited to cutting boards). There are probably some people on this forum who would sell you a working-condition plane for a reasonable price. I know that Don @ http://www.timetestedtools.net/ is a member of LJ and sells restored/repaired planes on his site. Some of them are tuned and ready to work right away (and he indicates which ones are already in good working condition).

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#14 posted 08-16-2017 08:13 PM

David, let me be the voice of experience! Don’t buy and restore an older Stanley!!! It will lead you down the road to a serious addiction! It will cause you to spend serious hours and dollars buying them and learning everything there is out there in the world about them. I’m certain you have many better things to do with your life. Heed my words of warning!!!

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#15 posted 08-16-2017 08:21 PM

I have a Stanley 4 & 5 to be restored that will be looking for a home soon.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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