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Forum topic by MrRon posted 08-12-2017 06:12 PM 1020 views 0 times favorited 56 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MrRon

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08-12-2017 06:12 PM

I have read rave reviews on Festool tools, but have yet to hear anything negative, other than price. I just can’t imagine anything being so good as to not have a weakness of some kind. Is there anyone out there who has anything negative to say about Festool? I’m tempted to buy a Festool, even though I can’t afford it, but I do like quality over price.


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msinc

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#1 posted 08-12-2017 06:29 PM

I like quality too, but three times the cost of the next closest thing to it?? That is the “weakness”. High cost doesn’t make it proportionately that much better. The people who buy Festool will no doubt jump on here and tell us all that it is worth what they paid. If they really feel that way or they are justifying their actions, either way it’s okay with me.
Take routers for example…entry level is in a range of somewhere around $150-$200, you can get a little better “nice” one for $250-$300…now jump to the Festool and they are all over $1000. I cannot imagine needing three times better than my Bosch, let alone actually being three times better. Better how
? I just don’t see the features being that much better if at all. I know they are nice tools and I wish all mine were Festool, but for the money and the return and the ability to maintain resale value….it’s just not there for me.

Edit: I still don’t know why half my posts show up in italics…I am not doing it. Even if I try to go back and edit…the italics don’t show to take them away.

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Rick M

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#2 posted 08-12-2017 06:33 PM

If you’re looking for an excuse not to buy one, you don’t need an excuse, just don’t buy one. I really like my Festool sander and have nothing negative to say other than the sandpaper isn’t enough better to justify the high price. It’s a well designed and well built tool that I’m happy to use. But I haven’t tried every sander on the market so I can’t say it’s the best or second best; only that it’s the best I’ve used. I am considering buying a Domino but I don’t make a living from woodworking so it would be an expensive luxury.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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Rick M

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#3 posted 08-12-2017 06:36 PM


Edit: I still don t know why half my posts show up in italics…I am not doing it. Even if I try to go back and edit…the italics don t show to take them away.
- msinc

It’s the extra question marks ?? that you put into your posts. ??
I don’t know why either, but that is the cause.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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TheFridge

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#4 posted 08-12-2017 06:48 PM

Great engineering and dust collection cost money.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Loren

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#5 posted 08-12-2017 06:55 PM

There are some complaints. The Kapex sliding
miter saws have a reputation for burning out
for example.

With the Festool system you get more speed
in working because it’s so well designed and
the accessories help solve set-up problems
quickly. There’s a guy on Youtube who took
a Festool track saw apart and complained about
components he thought were pretty cheap
for such a pricey saw.

I own some Festool stuff and haven’t had
any problems with it.

I think however it’s unreasonable to expect
a Festool saw that costs twice as much as
a Makita to outlast the Makita in daily
use by twice as long.

Festool stuff also has great resale value so
if you take care of the tools they can be
resold at little loss. I can’t say that for
any other common power tool brand in the
USA.

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Aj2

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#6 posted 08-12-2017 06:57 PM

I just can’t think of anything bad about the design or function of my Festool Router or Domino.
There’s not many tools I’ve bought and used them right out of the box.I don’t mind the high price when quality is this good.
It good to support tool manufacturing that’s not in China.

Haven’t you guys had enough of their junk in your lives?

-- Aj

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waho6o9

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#7 posted 08-12-2017 07:15 PM

If you don’t like your purchase you can return within 30 days for a full refund, no

questions asked.

If it’s a sander you after make sure you have a dust extractor for it to function properly.

If you want the game changing Domino I’d say go for it with out hesitation. It’s imperative that
a dust extractor is used with the Domino.

So…. whatcha going to get?

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RichTaylor

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#8 posted 08-12-2017 08:34 PM

The dust collection and well thought out packaging screams professional. If you are a contractor and show up at a remodel with a stack of systainers, do the job well, and leave behind zero sawdust, customers are going to love you. Even their router table has over and under dust collection. At least in videos I’ve seen, it really is pretty much dust free.

For the average guy like me working in my shop, it’s not worth the extra money — at least not for me. I only sell doors, I don’t hang them, so I’m never working on the job site.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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msinc

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#9 posted 08-12-2017 08:46 PM



........I think however it s unreasonable to expect
a Festool saw that costs twice as much as
a Makita to outlast the Makita in daily
use by twice as long.
- Loren

My point exactly…if it’s unreasonable to expect it to last twice as long then surely it has to be unreasonable to expect us to pay twice as much. Actually, based on the prices I have seen it’s closer to triple not double.

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msinc

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#10 posted 08-12-2017 08:49 PM


Edit: I still don t know why half my posts show up in italics…I am not doing it. Even if I try to go back and edit…the italics don t show to take them away.
- msinc

It s the extra question marks ?? that you put into your posts. ??
I don t know why either, but that is the cause.

- Rick M

Thank you sir, I wont do that anymore.

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Loren

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#11 posted 08-12-2017 08:58 PM


........I think however it s unreasonable to expect
a Festool saw that costs twice as much as
a Makita to outlast the Makita in daily
use by twice as long.
- Loren

My point exactly…if it s unreasonable to expect it to last twice as long then surely it has to be unreasonable to expect us to pay twice as much. Actually, based on the prices I have seen it s closer to triple not double.

- msinc

If the durability/cost ratio is your only criteria
then Festool is surely not worth investing in.
If saving time doing installations or whatever
is the criteria, as it is for many professionals,
then it can be worth it. Certain Festool products
like the track saw and the Domino solve
specific problems very well and get the work
done efficiently. When time is money they
can make a lot of sense.

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Redoak49

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#12 posted 08-12-2017 09:29 PM

If you like the Festool and want it, go ahead and buy them. I have the track saw, dust extractor and sander. For me they are good values. I like the ergonomics of the Sanders and the ability to catch the dust. Other Sanders do not come close. When I bought the track saw, it was the best available with few other options.

If you do not like them and think they are not worth it, buy something cheaper.

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MrRon

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#13 posted 08-12-2017 09:32 PM

I don’t go along with resale value being an important point to consider. I don’t think many would buy a tool based on that premise. When I buy a tool, I intend on keeping it forever and passing it down to my heirs. The only tools I would sell (or give away) are inexpensive tools; those of poor quality. The good tools I will keep forever. I tend to be a tool junkie and buy only tools of the very best quality and within my means. If I can’t afford it, I wait and save my pennies. I have been stung too many times with tools that did not measure up to expectations. Of course there are people who don’t share my passion for tools. I am not a professional; just a DIY’er, retired and enjoying life with all it has to offer.

As I said in my OP, I have not heard any negatives about Festools themselves. Lacking any negative feedback, all I can assume is; Festools are the best and nothing can compare or outdo them. I kind a think it’s the same comparison between a Ford and a Rolls Royce. They both will get you there, but one will do it in style and if style is worth the cost, then that is the way to go.

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AandCstyle

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#14 posted 08-12-2017 09:55 PM

I am not a Festool junkie by any stretch of the imagination and find their prices hard to swallow. However, I try to buy quality tools so I only have to buy them once. I was buying Bosch tools and maybe I got a bad sander that I had repaired twice. When it died the third time, I bit the bullet and upgraded to my first Festool product. That sander is still with me 8 years later. I also had a Bosch router that had an issue (another fluke?) so I got an OF 1400 (no issues in 6 years) for about $500 at that time. The dependability of these two tools has been worth the price for me. The other benefit IMO is the technological innovation, e.g. dust collection, behind the tools that isn’t easy to quantify, but that doesn’t come cheap. FWIW

-- Art

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MrRon

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#15 posted 08-12-2017 10:13 PM



I am not a Festool junkie by any stretch of the imagination and find their prices hard to swallow. However, I try to buy quality tools so I only have to buy them once. I was buying Bosch tools and maybe I got a bad sander that I had repaired twice. ion, e.g. dust collection, behind the tools that isn t easy to quantify, but that doesn t come cheap. FWIW

- AandCstyle


I had a Bosch impact driver that quit on me. I bought another of the same and so far it is still working. If and when it quits, I may spring for a Festool. I will start saving my pennies for that day.

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