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01-10-2011 05:24 PM

Topic tags/keywords: machine shop resawing

Good morning!

After a year hiatus from woodworking (new baby = no garage time), I am planning to get back to it this spring, and I have a little bit of a post-holiday budget to work on my shop.

Now, my shop is not ideal, it’s a on-insulated-not-quite-double garage with a car in it, so everything I have needs to be able to sit comfortably on a bench or fold out of the way.

Currently I have:
Ryobi 10” SCMS
Rigid 2410LS Contractor Saw w/ Incra 1000SE mitre gauge
Ryobi benchtop drill press
CT router table and cruddy router
Hitachi 2 1/2 HP combo-router
Leigh 18” SuperJig w/ VRS
Freud Biscuit Joiner
Assorted hand tools, chisels, planes (inc Stanely #5, etc…)

Budget is always a concern, thus the Ryobi stuff, but it’s all worked well enough for someone of my limited skill and experience. I bought the Hitachi router and the SuperJig last year with the intention of getting into box-making. The Rigid saw is the best I could afford that would be small enough to fit in the garage, and so far it has done me well.

I have a budget of about $500 to add to the shop, and since I was looking at doing boxes, I’m stuck with the next choice. I have a source of good quality S4S Ash/Walnut/Maple/Cherry here in Winnipeg, but if I ever want to use exotic woods, it’s all 8/4 rough cut or maybe S2S at best.

I’d like to get into resawing, and I have been able to do some resawing on my table saw on my first real project but it was less than ideal. With no planer, it made getting everything square a real challenge!

So, should I start with a bandsaw? Is there a benchtop model that’s actually worth buying or do I need to bite the bullet and get at least a 14” and find room in the garage for it? Should I keep resawing on my table saw and invest in the planer? Are both of these options pointless without a jointer?

I’d appreciate any advice that you might have to offer.

-- I'm just learning how to cut the stuff with some other stuff...

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#1 posted 01-10-2011 09:20 PM

I wouldnt get a Benchtop BS, if I were you. Particularly if you want to get into resawing… It just won’t have the ponies to make any of the cuts… nor will it have the thoat depth to do more than 2×4..

You may wanna bite the bullet on that.

Another thing to look into, is a Planer. You can get a decent one for $3-400..

Maybe a Jointer. It will do the job of squaring lumber too. For about $519 you can get a nice one…

Alternatively, if you don’t already have one, I recommend a Nail Gun and compressor… Let me tell you.. after using one, I am reluctant to go back to hammer and nail… ITs so much easier to get something nailed, while holding it, rather than having to device different clamping jigs..

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#2 posted 01-10-2011 09:43 PM

I haven’t seen anything there about dust collection. You really need to be thinking about that… For $500.00 I would get a Harbor Freight 2HP DC, a Wynn filter, some hose and fittings, and build yourself a Thien baffle for it… Take a few of those bucks, and put together an ambient air filter as well to catch what the DC misses…

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#3 posted 01-10-2011 09:50 PM

You don’t need a giant bandsaw to resaw well. The 14” saws
mostly can take a riser kit, but I’ll argue that 6” is an adequate
height capacity for resawing. If you have wider boards, just rip
them in half, resaw, then joint them back together.

In principle I say get an 18” or bigger bandsaw for serious furniture-making,
such saws do take up more space, cost more, and you’ll probably
not use the extra capacity much anyway.

I’m a bandsaw guy, BTW, in terms of solid wood furnituremaking.

The INCA 10” bandsaws do a great job resawing. I’ve had one for years
and it’s really a nice machine for something so compact. I also presently
have 2 bigger saws.

The old standby is the 14” Delta pattern bandsaw. The off-brand ones
tend to be stinkers requiring a lot of work, but the Deltas, Jets and
a few others seem to have a good rep for precision.

I almost always buy machinery second-hand, so I’m not that picky about
brands and models but I know a bargain when I see one and I know
when to pass on a jacked-up machine when it’s not worth putting
work into.

I’d buy a used saw. Cracked tires usually don’t require immediate
replacement but broken guides or cast parts can be costly to replace.

The planer and the bandsaw are the two best sweat-saving machines
you can have in building solid-wood furniture. Everything else can
be done with hand tools or routers without too much trouble. I
could get by without the bandsaw if I had to as well, but thicknessing
wood by hand is tedious as heck.

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#4 posted 01-10-2011 10:06 PM

Thanks for the advice guys.

For DC, I just hook up a shop vac, open the garage door, and wear a mask, because everything has to fold/slide away in the garage. If I ever move to a house with more space or room outside to build a shop, that will be top of the list.

I’m starting to lean to a planer. I can edge-joint on my router table, and while resawing on my table saw is a bit of a pain, I don’t think I am going to work with anything wider than 6” for the moment. When I want to go bigger, I’ll get the Bandsaw and I’ll have the planer on hand, ready to go.

-- I'm just learning how to cut the stuff with some other stuff...

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#5 posted 01-10-2011 10:18 PM

Personally, I think every shop should have one of these. 8-)

But seriously, I would think acquiring equipment in roughly this order:
DC system,
14” BS,
12-13” planer, and finally
an 8” jointer.

Unless you get lucky on CL, then I would say the DC system is a wise choice for your limited $500 expenditure.

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#6 posted 01-10-2011 10:29 PM

At the very least, you really ought to take a box fan and tape an allergen filter to it. That shop vac is pretty limited to what it will capture…

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#7 posted 01-10-2011 10:31 PM

I do actually have one of these too:

-- I'm just learning how to cut the stuff with some other stuff...

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#8 posted 01-10-2011 11:50 PM

From what you have said so far, I would probably get a planer and put it on a mbile stand of some sort so you can move it in/out.

That’s not to say the DC, BS and other tools aren’t important though, just comes down to what you think you will be doing most for the next year or whenever your next purchase will be.

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#9 posted 01-11-2011 02:15 AM

Planer, Joiner… I couldn’t live without my compressor and that opens the door to the zillion air tools that you simply must have…

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#10 posted 01-11-2011 03:10 AM

I would get a planer (no need for a jointer, a planer sled eliminates the need).
A bandsaw would also be a good choice for resawing as a table saw can only resaw around up to a 6 inch wide board.

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#11 posted 01-11-2011 03:34 AM

IMHO, if you are going to build boxes of various sized dovetails, particularly through-dovetails, you will want to be able to control your stock thickness with some precision. I’d go with the planer…no question.

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#12 posted 01-11-2011 03:45 AM

Resawing requires horsepower and at least a 3/4 inch blade. Look at Carter magfence too. Bandsaws are very versatile and can do the work of many tools.

Handplane skills are good for flatening the face of a board and jointing as well. A good tablesaw blade can joint an edge too. ebay is good source for planes you can clean up and use. Planes are good -no dust, quiet-while baby sleeps.

I started with tabletop/benchtop tools, and later moved to bigger machines as I got further into woodworking. I built my own air dust filter – woodsmith/shopnotes had a design (plywood, furnace filters, squirl cage motor) it works well.

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#13 posted 01-11-2011 03:48 AM

I bought the Rikon 10” band saw when it was on sale, around $190, and really like it. I use this little saw on just about every project I do. I use an old oak, 2 drawer file cabinet I bought at an auction for a base and that works perfectly. This was not my first choice, but I like it for small stuff, and I plan to build a 16” wood frame bandsaw from plans I bought, so it works for me; for the time being.

I missed a sale for a Sears 12” BS with 3/4hp whiich is really just the 12” Rikon with a different paint job. This was my first choice. Here is a link to it:

The 12” Sears/Rikon saw is regularly $399, but from time to time it goes on sale for $279. At that price I don’t think there is a better value out there; unless you score a hit on Craigs List.

Both of these saws have cast iron tables and extruded aluminum fences, ball bearing blade guides. They are way better than most of the typical benchtop band saws IMHO.

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#14 posted 01-11-2011 03:59 AM

Dust collection doesn’t sound as exciting as a new tool…however your health is more important. I put my dust collection outside with a remote switch. It isn’t hard to build a small out building to the side or back of a garage, thus it doesn’t take up space. I live in Michigan so opening the garage door in January isn’t a real option. Plus it keeps the dust away from your kids…congrats on the baby.

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#15 posted 01-11-2011 04:33 AM

Yeah, I’m going to get a planer and improve my DC somehow.

A bandsaw is next on the list. Maybe next year.

Thanks everyone!

-- I'm just learning how to cut the stuff with some other stuff...

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