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Forum topic by TopamaxSurvivor posted 01-10-2011 12:18 PM 3015 views 1 time favorited 45 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TopamaxSurvivor

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01-10-2011 12:18 PM

Topic tags/keywords: sue law suit liability insurance

I found this: http://books.google.com/books?id=i_sDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA72&dq=jan%201991%20american%20woodworker&pg=PA80#v=onepage&q=jan%201991%20american%20woodworker&f=false browsing old American Woodworkers on Goggle books. I doubt if the contact info is good, but it is something to think about.

EDIT: SCAN DOWN TO BOTTOM LEFT OF PAGE 80

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence


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#1 posted 01-10-2011 01:34 PM

When, oh when will people EVER take responsibility for their own actions?! Once my editor told me that someone made a candle holder out of one of the patterns that was run in our magazine. The person started a fire and burned his house down. He then tried to sue the magazine. He didn’t win but it sure made a statement. Now they are afraid to publish any projects involving candles at all.

So does that mean that if I buy a cabinet from someone and slam my finger in it and break it I can sue the cabinet manufacturer? A couple weeks ago, my partner caught his finger in the car door. Maybe we should have called a lawyer?

I was reading the other thread in the forum on accidents. I think it is time that people become accountable for themselves and stop trying to make a buck on their own stupidity.

And everyone wonders why North America is in such a mess? Hummm . . . let me think . . . ???

Just my opinion, Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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racerglen

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#2 posted 01-10-2011 01:40 PM

Wasn’t it Shakespear who had the answer ? Something to do with the legal proffesion ..
Just kidding
;-)

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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#3 posted 01-10-2011 01:50 PM

you can’t fool a fool

they just can’t handle the truth (jack nicholson)

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#4 posted 01-10-2011 02:01 PM

Sheila, There is a good chance it was the home owner’s insurance company looking to recover anything they could by casting wide net. I had a property owner’s insurance company try that on me when a tenant or someone put a penny behind a fuse. Fortunately, the fire investigator found it and documented it. My insurance company told them to go fly a kite, but they still held it against me when renewal time came.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#5 posted 01-10-2011 02:07 PM

That’s just it TS – It’s the people who want a quick buck and commit fraud that ruin it for the people who have legitimate claims. All it takes is one victory and it ruins it for the rest of the honest people. :(

Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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helluvawreck

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#6 posted 01-10-2011 02:10 PM

It’s pretty simple: lawyers mostly run the government, make the laws, and generate the bureaucratic red tape. You would think they probably want to make sure that they have plenty of income coming in. Seems like I once saw where the US has more lawyers per capita than any other country. That’s a lot of hungry mouths to feed.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#7 posted 01-10-2011 02:48 PM

Again I say, basically, as a general rule, people suck. That being said I don’t think I would ever make toys for kids.

-- Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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#8 posted 01-10-2011 02:56 PM

I would like to find one of those guys that files frivolous malpractice. A friend of mine who is an attorney told me if anyone ever had a legitimate suit, I did for the clown that overdosed me on Topamax. I was told by malpractice attorney’s that justice starts at $400k and goes up from there by the time you get the expert witnesses. In the mean time, I can only wonder how many people’s lives that clown has destroyed? The web is full of horror stories about Topamax victims. Another one is Seroquel that ws found to be causing diabetes. It is used for migraine prevention too, but fortunately I got off it in time. No diabetes, just not normal any more. I probably shouldn’t be telling all this, but if nobody does, there will just be more victims who learn the hard way because they trusted their drs.

That got a little off woodworking, in that article in the old Am WW, I was a bit surprised to see you can be held liable for gifts. Guess we had better be careful who we give to and make sure what we make does not have structural integrity issue; ie, don’t make chairs!!

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Chip

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#9 posted 01-10-2011 03:01 PM

People suck. Now there’s a pearl of wisdom I think we can all agree, if we lead our lives by (and as a general rule), will make the world a better place. Excellent point.

-- Better to say nothing and be thought the fool... then to speak and erase all doubt!

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#10 posted 01-10-2011 03:04 PM

rivergirl, you are a mean woman!! No toys!!!??? :-)) :-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#11 posted 01-10-2011 03:11 PM

LOL, Kelly! It IS a shame that so many people are such opportunists. I can’t help but think that the lady that sued McDonald’s really helped fuel this type of thinking. Then shortly after, the ones who found the finger in the Wendy’s chili. Just goes to show how desperate and sick people are.

We were talking the other day about “codes” for building. Everything here in Canada is coded. EVERYTHING. It is as if you can’t put up new window curtains without taking out a permit (an exaggeration – but not by much) We were saying that we wondered how the Acadians who settled this area 400 years ago survived. They built four walls and a fireplace for cooking and heat. It’s no wonder they didn’t all burn themselves to the ground and die off.

I am all for safety, but come on! Where the heck does ‘common sense’ come into play? Why should we have the burden for everyone’s stupidity? (Oh – I forgot – no one needs to be responsible for their own actions!) We grew up in a world where everyone is pointing the finger at everyone else for their problems so much it has become a way of life. The real victims get lost in the shuffle.

Sorry to rant, but it really makes me sick!

(Hey, Rivergirl! – You had better put a ‘disclaimer’ on your rustic tool box! Someone may be carrying it full of tools and a hammer may fall out and hit them on the foot! You could be liable!!!!)

Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#12 posted 01-10-2011 03:43 PM

A link to the real story of the MacDonalds coffee incident was posted on another thread a day or two ago. It is too bad we have to have attys take corps to court to make them behave.

Anyways, I posted this so people would be aware of the hobby risk and that there is insurance available to to cover you. I googled the phone numbers and they are no longer good. Stefang sent me to American Turners Association. While I was on their site, I noticed they have insurance for members at group rates. I haven’t checked into it yet, but I probably will when I get to making a lot of small items that may get out of my immediate family.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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woodsmithshop

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#13 posted 01-10-2011 05:16 PM

this is my story of how we should take responsibility of ourselves, my Dad had diabetes, many years ago he received some bad insulin from the drug store, he spent about 2 weeks in the hospital, and lost 2 weeks wages, he did not sue the drug store or the drug co for millions, all he ask for was his medical expenses and lost wages be paid, they paid gladly, this is what I feel is the right thing to do, nothing more, nothing less.

-- Smitty!!!

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#14 posted 01-10-2011 05:51 PM

”It IS a shame that so many people are such opportunists. I can’t help but think that the lady that sued McDonald’s really helped fuel this type of thinking.”

It’s never long before this case comes up.

Many people might think differently about this—and probably many other—cases, if they knew anything about them.

In this case:

Start here….

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

And then do 15 more minutes of your own research.

If you’re really touting this case as evidence of something being wrong with our justice system, it’s pretty likely that you really don’t know anything about the case.

Maybe we should all admit to ourselves when we do and do not know enough information to hold such strong opinions about … well … everything.

Maybe.

-- -- Neil

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#15 posted 01-10-2011 05:53 PM

Far too many people try to blame someone else for their own stupidity. Whatever happened to taking responsibility for ones own actions. These frivolous law suits have done more damage to businesses and driven up the cost to consumers and made it almost impossible to bring a product to the market unless you’ve got lots of cash. Personally I think if you bring a law suit against someone and you loose you should have to pay all costs to the defendant.

Good article Neil.

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