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Mark Wilson

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08-07-2017 06:55 PM

I have a very ineffective website. I’ve been paying for this thing for a couple years, and had NO sales through it. I could count the number of times anyone has used the Contact Form on the fingers of one hand.
Today, I got an email notification that someone has left a message for me on the Contact Form. Someone (ostensibly) in Switzerland left a message. It reads thusly (the sender’s ID info omitted):

My name is _., in Lausanne, Switzerland. We found your company listed in an online marketplace apps, and we are very intrigue by some of these product line that you carried in stock. Therefore we want to use this medium to inquiry about placing an order from your store/shop.

Please let us know if you could possibly ship some of your product over here without any problem or delay, and if you do perhaps accept “Credit Card” as means of payment for this purchase. As you can see we are enthusiastic to form a good partnership with your lovely genuine products.

Thank you for taking time out of your schedule to read this email. We look forward to your response and wishing you all the best.

Sincerely,

When I see such bad grammar, I wonder whether this is a scam, trying to get its hooks into me, if I respond to it.

I would, of course, respond by telling the person that ordering items from my site is rather straightforward: You want an item(s), you select the item(s), put it in your cart, and pay for it, choosing your shipping.

Any thoughts?

-- Mark


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Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)

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#1 posted 08-07-2017 07:00 PM

It is a scam. Please don’t follow it or respond. We get them all the time. They hone in on sites that are smaller, I think.

Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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CharlieM1958

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#2 posted 08-07-2017 07:03 PM

Hi, Mark. I would say this is undoubtedly a scam of some sort. The dead giveaway is the fact that they don’t mention anything about your “products” whatsoever. This means it’s basically a form letter sent to as many potential victims as possible.

I’m sure if you expressed an interest in doing business with them, there would come a point when you would be asked to send them financial information, which they would then use to rip you off or steal your identity.

Don’t bite!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Rick_M

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#3 posted 08-07-2017 07:09 PM

Scam. My criteria is if I have any doubt it’s legit, there is no doubt.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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MrUnix

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#4 posted 08-07-2017 07:10 PM

It’s a scam… but they are pretty fun to play with. Generally, they are not the sharpest pencils in the box. I’ve actually been able to get a few to send forged checks to – get this – the “Check Fraud Division” of the local State attorneys office (my wife works there)! Tell them that you would need them to send you a retainer upfront due to shipping outside the US or whatever… maybe $500 or so :) Use your imagination.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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shipwright

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#5 posted 08-07-2017 07:12 PM

Wow Mark!
Sounds too good to be true! ........

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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Dustin

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#6 posted 08-07-2017 07:50 PM


It s a scam… but they are pretty fun to play with. Generally, they are not the sharpest pencils in the box. I ve actually been able to get a few to send forged checks to – get this – the “Check Fraud Division” of the local State attorneys office (my wife works there)! Tell them that you would need them to send you a retainer upfront due to shipping outside the US or whatever… maybe $500 or so :) Use your imagination.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

This literally made my afternoon :D

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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lew

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#7 posted 08-07-2017 08:46 PM

You’re gonna jump on it, aren’t you?!? ;^)

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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leafherder

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#8 posted 08-07-2017 08:48 PM

Hi Mark,

Sounds like a scam to me for the following reasons:

1. Switzerland is a well developed country with an educated population that is well versed in international business practices. Is everyone in Switzerland fluent in English? No, but any company trying to do business with Americans would know enough to use proper grammar.

2. Are you sure the return e-mail was Switzerland? They could be writing from anywhere. I got an email from my Cousin in Atlanta last week – it looked like it was from her – her name, her picture, her job title and the name of the company she works for – she wanted me to send her my social media login and password so she could add me to her professional contacts – our jobs have absolutely nothing in common and checking the return email showed it was not from her account – it wasn’t even from the USA.

3. All your items are pretty much unique – one of a kind creations – not necessarily a “product line that you carried in stock”. You are not in the business of mass production and anyone looking at your website would see that you are a small operation that could not be shipping products across the globe “without any problem or delay”.

4. A friend of mine fell for a similar scam – she sews baby clothing and sells it on Etsy. A store in Indiana contacted her and asked her to send some items “on consignment”. She did and never heard from them – when she tried to contact them by phone it was disconnected, the street address was a self storage company near the airport not an upscale suburban mall. Police had heard it all before – individuals scam you out of your products for resale at flea markets or online, sometimes paying you with fraud checks, other times demanding payment from you to cover shipping expenses.

Be very careful.

John

-- Leafherder

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doubleDD

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#9 posted 08-07-2017 08:58 PM

I think you got it mark. Have them pay up front, money clear, then ship. I don’t blame you for being suspicious,there are a lot of scam artist out there. Good luck.
At least you got a hit on your site. LOL.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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GR8HUNTER

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#10 posted 08-07-2017 09:14 PM

I think it is a total shame that we have to live with these scammers in our lives …but seems like today it is hard to trust any1 I would tell them to pay with with paypal then I will ship items …without giving to much info out :<((

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Mark Wilson

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#11 posted 08-07-2017 09:24 PM

Thank you all. Answers I expected.
Brad: Sounds like fun. If by “fun,” you mean “swatting a hornet’s nest just to see how many you can outrun.”
John: I’ve had many a Swissperson in my car. Not a one of them failed to speak perfect American English.
It makes me wonder, if, mebbees, there’s some way someone gets a line on underperforming websites and smells a desperate pigeon.
Like the age-old vacuum cleaner salesman who says, “Sure, it’s a $2000.00 investment in your future. How much is it worth to you to protect your offspring/pets/self/aged parents from all those dangerous pathogens in the air you breathe?” (I will NEVER fall for that again.)
Or, the “hearing health professional” (read: Miracle Ear salesman) who says, “Isn’t your hearing health worth $8000.00 to you?”
Snarky, effing snake oil salesmen.
The jewelry guy: “Show her how much you care. How much is her adoration worth to you? Take her breath away. Make her speechless. That oughtta shut her up.”
Or, one of the most bothersome radio commercials I hear, often: “Call today, and you can get a free CT scan – a $1500.00 value…” (This figure changes over time.)
I tried that method, long ago, on my former (also non-performing site), by putting a price on an item, then, stating, “This item has been valued at $92,000.00. At this $800.00 price, it’s a steal.” The person doing the valuing was my friend, down the street. I’d ask her, “What do you think this piece is worth? Mebbees, $70,000 – $75,000?. Her answer was always, “Oh, I’d say at least $90,000 – $92,000.”
She’s the only person who’s ever bought one of my pieces (twice) at the price I put on it. ($800.00, or $250.00. Not $92,000) I tried to convince her. But she said she didn’t trust the appraiser.)

-- Mark

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robscastle

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#12 posted 08-07-2017 09:29 PM

Hello Mark,

A interesting post and even more interesting replies, so being the inqusitive sort of person I am I tried to contact you via the address you provided, I rehashed the message from this post and added some custom spelling, tried to send it but could not get past the “Iam not a Robot” street sign and car Quiz so go figure.

As that was a fail you may wish to try another way of checking.

From memory of my school days the Swiss are easly recognised as they wear funny looking short pants and are good at yodeling.
If by chance they dont yodel ask them the time they are pretty good at timekeeking too and if any of the above checks look OK they are genuine.

All intended as humour of course.

-- Regards Robert

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MrUnix

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#13 posted 08-07-2017 09:53 PM

Brad: Sounds like fun. If by “fun,” you mean “swatting a hornet s nest just to see how many you can outrun.”
- Mark Wilson

Not really, but I get your point :)

For grins, you might want to visit 419eater – lots of really hilarious stories about scambaiting those idiots and all the stupid stuff you can do with them.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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DocSavage45

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#14 posted 08-08-2017 12:59 AM

Sorry Mark,

Would be nice to sell something. Have you tried Etsy? I have thought about playing with the scamers but figured I have too big a To Do List LOL!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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peteg

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#15 posted 08-08-2017 01:24 AM

Hands of this one Mark, scam written all over it, the guys over on the WOW site get these all the time
cheers
pete

-- Pete G: If you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got

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