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Dustin

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08-07-2017 03:20 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question tip finishing

So, I’m doing my first glue-up of any appreciable size, and am interested in getting a #80 scraper to assist in the finishing. I love my card scrapers for small projects, but would prefer to be able to use my fingers once I’m done (largest section here is about 28”x40”).

For those of you using them, what would you recommend? I see Lee Valley has one for about $70, but aside from that, the only ones I see retail are the Kunz and the Woodriver, both with questionable reviews. Is this something that’d be worth my while to hop on ebay and try to pick up an older Stanley #80?

All suggestions welcomed and appreciated!

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."


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jonah

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#1 posted 08-07-2017 03:27 PM

I love my #80. I got two of them from eBay for something like $25 shipped. I had to de-rust and flatten/burnish the blade, sure, but they are great. Card scrapers, as you note, hurt the hell out of your hands.

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#2 posted 08-07-2017 03:40 PM

Dustin, I have a Stanley #80 that I’ve never been able to use correctly. You’re welcome to borrow it and, in return, show me how to use it effectively when you’re done with it.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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Bluenote38

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#3 posted 08-07-2017 04:01 PM

Currently on eBay $15-$35 incl shipping for a “vintage” Stanley No 80. A fully functional No 12 is $10 $40 plus shipping. (I was just trolling for a No 12)

-- Bill - Rochester MI

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#4 posted 08-07-2017 04:07 PM

I got the Kunz when it went into one of those Amazon price drops. Out of the box, it deserves the questionable reviews. The blade just a blunt 90º edge, and the sole is ground to about 60 grit. However, the rest of the finish is very nice, and after doing a proper setup on the blade and flattening the sole, it’s a champ, so I’m very happy with the purchase.

One thing I did do was to replace those awkward screws with wing-bolts, M5 and M6 if I recall correctly. They make set-up and tweaking the aggressiveness of the cut a breeze.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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Loren

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#5 posted 08-07-2017 04:15 PM

The Stanley no. 80 is a real basic tool. I don’t
use it for fine scraping but for taking off
ridges in glue-ups and stuff like that it’s
great. The edge should be beveled to 45
degrees, so it doesn’t have two edges
like a card scraper. I got mine off ebay
and it had no blade in it so I cut the end
off a card scraper to make it shorter.

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Rich

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#6 posted 08-07-2017 04:38 PM

The customer image on the Amazon page for the Kunz shows how to prepare the blade. The reviewer also references paulsellers.com as his source for information (maybe the image came from there, I didn’t look).

Edit: If you go to Paul’s site and search for “Kunz #80” he has several blog posts on it. Naturally, any setup tips will apply to any #80 scraper.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#7 posted 08-07-2017 04:45 PM

Thanks for the input, folks!

Loren, removing squeeze-out and leveling off glue-up’s is the main driver behind this, so glad to hear that it should work well for that.

Rich, with all the work the Kunz needs, it sounds like I’d be just as happy to go used and save a few bucks when the time comes. Also, I did see that review, and read the whole Paul Sellers entry on cabinet scrapers earlier today. Very informative.

Charles, I’d love to take you up on your offer. Be a good chance to test drive one before picking one up, and double bonus if I can return it to you with more utility than before.

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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CharlesA

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#8 posted 08-07-2017 04:48 PM

Dustin, let’s set up a time for you to get it. I can bring it downdown if that’s easiest.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#9 posted 08-07-2017 05:52 PM


Currently on eBay $15-$35 incl shipping for a “vintage” Stanley No 80. A fully functional No 12 is $10 $40 plus shipping. (I was just trolling for a No 12)

- Bluenote38

I’ve been looking, too.

Beware almost all under $25 do not include a blade. And be careful to check shipping. It can add $8-10 to the bid. You also have to be careful I bought a No 81 and the “blade” turned out to be a piece of thick sheet metal.

For a complete No. 80 plan on more like $35-40.

You can try bidding all I can say is “Good Luck”. I’ve about given up on anything Stanley on Ebay. Everybody thinks collectors are bidding, not users.

BTW did you see the one with the block plane iron?

LV sells replacement blades for about $14

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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AlaskaGuy

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#10 posted 08-07-2017 06:04 PM

How about a scraper plane?

http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-tips/techniques/skills/using-scraping-plane

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#11 posted 08-07-2017 06:08 PM

BTW, here’s my favorite scraper I earned about it here on LumberJocks.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#12 posted 08-07-2017 10:42 PM

I have an old Stanly No 80, I got as part of a box-o-planes purchase so less than $25. I haven’t used it. Chris Shwartz says the No 80 is the only thing you need. Don't bother with No 81, No `12 etc.

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Loren

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#13 posted 08-07-2017 10:49 PM

Lee Valley sells this:
http://leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,310&p=32635

If you have an extra #4 or #5 plane around
it might be a good solution. I’ve never
tried it.

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Ocelot

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#14 posted 08-07-2017 10:55 PM

I bought one of those Veritas scraper inserts and have not had any luck using it. But I don’t have any other scraper experience and didn’t have a proper burnisher at the time.

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Dustin

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#15 posted 08-08-2017 12:09 PM

Thanks for everything, folks. I’m taking Charles up on his offer to borrow his no. 80, and am pretty stoked to start playing around with it. Between Chris Shwarz and Paul Sellers, the excitement is definitely starting to build. If I enjoy using this one well enough, I’ll likely end up putting down the $70 for the Lee Valley.

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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