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lumber_jerk

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08-03-2017 09:04 PM

Topic tags/keywords: planes sargent wood handtools

Hello, all…long time listener, first time caller…
I’m looking for information on a hand plane, but I’m “technologically-challenged” and can’t find many facts online. Then I remembered that you lumbernerds have nothing better to do, than to show-off how smart you are…kidding, kidding…jeez…

I tried sending the following email to some weirdo blogger, but it would not deliver:

Dear Plane Guru, I just bought a little plane at a thrift store and started tearing it apart to clean. When I went to pull the frog I thought: “what the hell are these goofy screws doing back here?” So, I spent the next 5 hours online looking for a mythical unicorn, and you seem to be the only person who believes in it’s existence…if it weren’t for you I’d still be looking for a Sargent VTB 8, so could you please tell me what I should do with a Shaw’s patent 8c? I’m guessing I shouldn’t pick up the wire brush? Does the lack of information indicate that it’s not sought after, or that it’s rare?...or, is Google just withholding knowledge from me, again, to mess with my emotions?...any help insight would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks

...it’’s a pretty sweet looking plane. Can any of you guys help me? Let the geek-off begin…. I’m kidding! You guys rock


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Tim

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#1 posted 08-03-2017 09:25 PM

I can’t even tell from your message what you have. Care to share some pictures?

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#2 posted 08-03-2017 09:28 PM

This is a question for DonW.

Check this link.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#3 posted 08-03-2017 10:40 PM

It’s one of the best planes made. It’s neither rare nor extremely valuable, but if you want to sell it let me know.

Here is how you can date it
http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/05/30/sargent-shaw-patent-planes/

The idea is you can adjust the frog without removing the iron. That was patented 5 years or so before the Improved Bedrock came out.

Post some pictures, we’d love to see it. If it’s a VBM, it not early, but I’m sure it’s a great user.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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lumber_jerk

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#4 posted 08-03-2017 10:59 PM

Thanks Wayne, but I’m not sure this falls into the “400” category…the frog is marked “8” and the plane blade is marked “8C”. And I think I read somewhere that, although the patent was applied for before the bedrock, it didn’t reach the market until after the bedrock had gained a foothold?...but who knows? I just figured if it isn’t very rare, there would be a lot more examples of it to compare to. I’ll try to send some pics when I get home…if, my boss will stop being such an dumba** and hand me up some nails

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#5 posted 08-03-2017 11:09 PM

The Shaw Patent was on the market before the Bedrock. What you read must have been written by a Stanley collector ;-)

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#6 posted 08-03-2017 11:12 PM

Oh man you’re hitting me in the heart. I guess I should not have assembled a full set of Bedrocks. Do they make a #1 sized shaw?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#7 posted 08-03-2017 11:19 PM

Sorry Wayne. Read page 4 in the book. But the Shaw Patents are a lot harder to find than the Bedrocks.

And no, the #7 (#2 size) is the smallest they made. And they are a lot harder to find than the 602.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#8 posted 08-03-2017 11:37 PM

Yeah…there a lot harder to find…and more expensive…and all the chicks dig a guy with an 8” sargent. So, if you’re willing to pay Bedrock prices, maybe you’d like to start assembling your complete set of shaw’s? Entertaining offers

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#9 posted 08-03-2017 11:58 PM

If you are interested in selling it, post some pictures and either PM me your price or post it here.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#10 posted 08-04-2017 04:58 AM

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