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1304 days ago

Anyone know where I’d look for a cartridge to retro fit on this style of DC? Craftex doesn’t offer one to fit it and they’re discontinuing the model. The base ring is 19 1/2” (rough measurement) and it’s a 3Hp model. Top loaders seem to be hard to find.

I don’t mind doing a little sheet metal work if I can find the right canister.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/


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#1 posted 1304 days ago

Penn state industries

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#2 posted 1304 days ago

Could you build a plywood box as a manifold and set the cartridge on top?
Drop you input line down to where you can change out cartridges comfortably. the claer bag doesn’t have to be on the ground and could move up with the current manifold to shorten the drop.

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#3 posted 1304 days ago

I thought of that sort of thing Bob but since top entry filters are available, I think it’s an easier way to go. Penn State has just about what I need. I was just kind of hoping to avoid international shipping. However I’m not finding much on the internet in Canada.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#4 posted 1304 days ago

Paul, I thought of that but wondered if pushing the fines through the filter to the bag wouldn’t hasten pluggin the pleats?
If the filter you are looking at just has a hole in the top you could probalby do that with a standard one.

What’s wrong with the big bag on there now?

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#5 posted 1304 days ago

Not much really. I guess I may be getting seduced by the promise of greater suction / air flow etc. I also HATE the annual bag cleaning.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#6 posted 1304 days ago

3hp should be pretty good if the system doesn’t leak. By the time you get the new cartridge”seasoned” you probably wont notice much difference except in your wallet. ;-)
Keep your lines at 6” and runs at the height of your tools.( about 40”) With only one lift to the blower on each run.
By using a gate for each run you will maximise the suction to each machine instead of trying to run all the branches open at the same time.

O.K. Shut up Bob.:-)

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#7 posted 1304 days ago

That’s OK Bob. Actually my system works really well when the bag’s clean. All my piping is underfloor. My main is 8”, my secondaries are 6” and all the short connectors are 4” except the planer (6”). One interesting thing I’ve noticed is that the collectors in the middle of the setup work better if a gate at the far end is open.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#8 posted 1304 days ago

When I used to plumb vacuum systems for the Dental profession we used a vacuum relief valve at the end of a long run for that very purpose. If the vacuum gets too high the air velocity in the pipe drops.
The thing was pretty simple with a gate strung against an adjustable spring.
p.s it also kept the pump from burning out from too much load.

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#9 posted 1303 days ago

Paul, I have a system from Penn State Industries that uses a couple of cannister filters that have a 6” flange on top and a removable canister below for cleanout. I’ve found that performance of the system drops significantly when the filter gets clogged with sanding dust, which is to be expected, but frequent blowing out of the filter pleats with an air gun takes care of it.

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#10 posted 1303 days ago

That’s one of my main considerations, Ken. My system has a very large bag and works really well when the bag is clean …..BUT the bag is a real mess to clean. Is it going to be significantly easier to clean a 6’ stack of paper filters? How tedious is the “blowing down” process?

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#11 posted 1303 days ago

From recall …. Wynn Environmental recommends about 30-40psi, and the blower wand, to clean its filters.

I clean mine about weekly, using this method. Takes about 50 seconds, and … in the FEW times that I actually bothered to (remove the poly bag and) look … it did a very good job.

-- -- Neil

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#12 posted 1303 days ago

That sounds much easier than I thought. It takes me longer than that to clean my shop vac paper filter and I use full psi.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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