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stevematis

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07-31-2017 03:24 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question pine

I have to make a riser for a steel cabinet.
The riser is 40×28x15.
I used 1 pc. 2×4, 1 sheet 3/4×4x8 BC plywood, 1 sheet 1/4×4x4 birch plywood, 30 pcs of wood srew, 12 ft. of oak glue on edge veneer, 4 can of black spray paint.
I spent on this job 12 hours.

What would be the fair price for a friend and for somebody else?

I started this job for a friend, so we will

agree on the end, as before.

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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 07-31-2017 05:08 PM

For a friend I’d charge cost of materials, and few buck to cover so overhead. Overhead being, heat, lights tool maintenance that sort of thing. For something like that I’d give my friend my labor.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#2 posted 07-31-2017 05:48 PM

Tell him that it is done, come get it and bring a case of your favorite beer. When he gets there, sit around, talk, and drink a couple…

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buckbuster31

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#3 posted 07-31-2017 06:12 PM

bingo. im with the others

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#4 posted 07-31-2017 06:17 PM

+3. Just be sure to mention your favorite beer. i did a favor for a friend once and he showed up with an 18-pack of Coors Light. Luckily I had some IPA in the fridge for me.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#5 posted 07-31-2017 06:20 PM

Show up with Coors Lite at my house and you’ll get a swift kick in the balls and a smack on the back of the head just because.

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#6 posted 07-31-2017 06:21 PM

So let’s say this wasn’t for a friend….what would you charge?

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#7 posted 07-31-2017 06:25 PM

The big question is what would you charge just a regular Joe? I try to get $30 an hour for my time plus materials and a bit for electricity and sandpaper and such (I’m sure cabinet shops charge for everything including blade wear!). By that formula you would be at $360 for labor plus materials. I understand you’re probably including time to go shopping for everything and time designing it, but charging over $400 for that is too much. Next time see if you can cut that time in half.

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#8 posted 07-31-2017 06:26 PM

I always used this simple formula to price jobs:

material + labor + overhead + profit = price

Estimating labor can be tricky, and is why many contractors will try to do jobs time &’materials. Takes all the risk out of it for them.

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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#9 posted 07-31-2017 06:42 PM

12 hours? It better be a hell of a good friend if they’re getting 12 free hours.

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#10 posted 07-31-2017 07:58 PM

Gargey
I built this kitchen for a friend of mine. I didn’t even charge him for overhead. Materials only. All the door panels are book matched solid wood panels.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Rich

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#11 posted 07-31-2017 08:24 PM



Gargey
I built this kitchen for a friend of mine. I didn t even charge him for overhead. Materials only. All the door panels are book matched solid wood panels.

- AlaskaGuy

You are obviously a very generous person with your time. I commend you for that, but how does this post help the OP?

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#12 posted 07-31-2017 08:35 PM

“Friend” price = cost of materials. I don’t even ask for beer for the reason mentioned by Rich, well that and I would prefer whisky anyway and I don’t want to be paid with Jack Daniels. Asking them to buy materials will weed out those who really want it and those who think they can get something for nothing.

general public price = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu_qFDanGPY
This is not for people running cabinet or millwork shops, this is advice for people working from their home workshop.


+3. Just be sure to mention your favorite beer. ...
- RichTaylor

That’s a pro tip right there. I had relatives at the house that drank all my ale but did me a favor and “replaced it” with Bud Lite.

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Rich

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#13 posted 07-31-2017 08:43 PM



“Friend” price = cost of materials. I don t even ask for beer for the reason mentioned by Rich, well that and I would prefer whisky anyway and I don t want to be paid with Jack Daniels. Asking them to buy materials will weed out those who really want it and those who think they can get something for nothing.

- Rick M

I’m liking this pricing. OK, so a close acquaintance would pay me with a bottle of Booker’s, and a friend-of-a-friend might have to pony up some barrel proof Elijah Craig.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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Loren

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#14 posted 07-31-2017 08:53 PM

Some small jobs, because of their complexity
of execution in relation to the intended use,
will send paying clients scrambling if quoted
fairly before-hand. I’ve learned not to do
“favor” jobs for clients, because a fair price
always makes them unhappy.

Doing something for a friend is a different
matter.

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#15 posted 07-31-2017 09:22 PM

Gargey
I built this kitchen for a friend of mine. I didn t even charge him for overhead. Materials only. All the door panels are book matched solid wood panels.

You are obviously a very generous person with your time. I commend you for that, but how does this post help the OP?

- RichTaylor


I can’t answer that Rich.I t wouldn’t be helping the OP. Instead of asking question that don’t help the OP next time PM me and I’ll answer.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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