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Forum topic by HokieMojo posted 1300 days ago 939 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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HokieMojo

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1300 days ago

This is probably a really dumb question, but does plugging in a tool that is already switched on cause any damage? For example, is it any different if I
1) plug in a shop vac and then switch it on
2) leave it switched on, and then plug it it

The reason I ask, is I’m thinking about setting up a drilling/miter station with a shop vac. Because neither tool creates a HUGE amount of dust, I want to put the shop vac high on a wall, put a seperator at mid level, and then have the drill/miter saw at normal height. Rather than have an automatic switch that comes on whenever I turn on a saw, I’d rather plug it into a socket and have that socket be switched.

Does this question make any sense? I don’t think my idea would be a problem, but I’d like to hear a thought or two on this idea of mine.
Thanks!


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ajosephg

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#1 posted 1300 days ago

No problem. There is no difference between using the tools power switch, or using a switched outlet as you described.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to turn a tool on by plugging and unplugging the power cord. It doesn’t hurt the tool, but depending on the current draw of the tool the blades of the power cord may over time be damaged due to the arcing that occurs.

-- Joe

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Gregn

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#2 posted 1300 days ago

I use power strips all the time for this type of application of using more than one thing at a time.
Like Joe said just plugging and unplugging with the cord alone can cause damage to the outlet and plug due to arcing.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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richgreer

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#3 posted 1300 days ago

Some tools have a soft start feature. It’s possible (I’m not certain) that starting the tool by plugging it in may not allow the tool to start with a soft start.

Also, a Sawstop goes through an electronic “booting up” process when started to check all its electronic circuitry. It may not be possible or advisable to start that saw by plugging it in.

Otherwise, I see no problem.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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PurpLev

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#4 posted 1300 days ago

FYI, all those dual power outlet that let you start the shop vac when you start your other tool, or those remote switches to start the DC/shopvac all rely on the fact that the DC/shopvac is always on and all they do is disconnect the power to it on the outlet – just like you are planning to do. so I’m pretty sure you’re safe to proceed with your plan.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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thiel

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#5 posted 1300 days ago

Something else to consider… With the newer electrical codes, arc-fault breakers are becoming standard… which means that if you get a little spark (pretty common) when plugging in an “on” tool, you’ll blow the breaker every time.

-- Laziness minus Apathy equals Efficiency

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Knothead62

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#6 posted 1300 days ago

I suggest that you get into the habit of turning off any power tool or electric item in the shop when not in use. You might forget and plug in something that is already on that might create a safety issue. I have one outlet that is on a switch but I’m going to convert it to a four plug outlet.

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Gator

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#7 posted 1300 days ago

Not to mention if it is a router or some other hand held tool, you could lose a finger or do serious damage to a project by plugging it in while it is still on..

Gator

-- Master designer of precision sawdust and one of a kind slivers.

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Lochlainn1066

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#8 posted 1300 days ago

I have a air compressor I control by plugging it in. I’m going to convert it to a switch. The arcing in a switch won’t hurt it, but arcing in a plug will burn it out and eat the prongs up. I know because I’ve had to change them once. Other than that, it won’t hurt the motor.

-- Nate, thegaragestudio.etsy.com

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BurtC

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#9 posted 1299 days ago

I got my small DC on a switched outlet. It is located outside in a cabinet. No problems at all.
The circuit is GFI protected.

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DaleM

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#10 posted 1299 days ago

No problem, even with a soft start. My router is a soft start and when I use it the table, I leave it turned on as it is plugged in to another switched outlet that is built into the table. The only damage I know of is when you accidentally leave something on and plug it in. I did that with a belt sander once. I would leave it permanently on and clamp it upside down on the workbench to use it that way. I unplugged it, forgot I left it switched on, then plugged it in while it was sitting on the workbench right side up. It launched itself right of the bench, similar to a snowmobile. Great fun.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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HokieMojo

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#11 posted 1297 days ago

I wanted to post a thank you to everyone for responding. I don’t think I worded my original question very well, yet I think everyone got the meaning of my post. Sounds like I’ll be just fine to leave a shop vac switched on (since the switch won’t be reachable without a ladder) and then just add an outlet style switch lower down to turn the vac on and off. Thanks everyone!

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#12 posted 1297 days ago

You got it, it doesn’t matter where the switch is on most equipment other than for computer type electronic shut down procedures.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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