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Forum topic by Tom Bloom posted 07-24-2017 08:43 PM 873 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Tom Bloom

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07-24-2017 08:43 PM

I have question for all you jocks. I have a set of plans for a cool modern murphy bed and shelves. The plans call for conduit to be run into the sides of the shelf units the full length of the bed. It seems to me that 1/2” carriage bolt and washers would be stronger and work equally as well. what am I missing here? Cosmics, might have to counter sink the bolt head but I plan on putting drawers in the shelving units to hide my gold bars.

Keeping the conduit in place is easy enough with washers and cater pins.

Appreciate your thoughts.

-- The cost of a thing is the amount, of what I call life, which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.


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#1 posted 07-24-2017 09:04 PM

Is the conduit to act as a pivot hinge point? If so, there is a lot more to it than that (Even carriage bolts)

A basic Murphy Bed mechanism starts around $639.00 and I strongly recommend them. The hinge is counter-weighted so the bed does not “fall” out of the cabinet and has a soft landing without crushing anyone to death.

This is accomplished with a loaded spring that is precisely tensioned to balance the load of the bed.
None of that could happen with carriage bolts or conduit!

My fear is that someone, particularly a small child, could be seriously injured or killed if the weight of the bed were to fall on them.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#2 posted 07-24-2017 09:35 PM

Iron counter weights and retention pins are used to hold the bed in the stored position. Which I like because there are no springs to break or cylinders to start leaking down the road.

-- The cost of a thing is the amount, of what I call life, which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.

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#3 posted 07-24-2017 09:54 PM

It would be helpful to see such plans to better understand what you are dealing with.

The actual Murphy Bed mechanism is a tried and true, we-invented-the-industry, tens-of-thousands-of-installed-units proven design and comes with a 25 yr warranty. (And no, I don’t work for them, nor receive any compensation from them.)

I HAVE designed wall units for dozens of them and they are usually painless to work with compared to other brands, or DIY designs. I personally consider it money well spent. (One less headache)

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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