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12-29-2010 06:59 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question finishing

Our kitchen needs to be refinished.
The cabinets are in good shape and the doors are OK, not great.
The color is like a dark oak.
I am planning on to refinish these cabinets and to replace the ugly hardware.
Of course I could strip everything but I would prefer to not have to do that.
I saw, in magazines, people painting their cabinets.
Do you have any experience with that?
If not do have another way to go?
Thank you.

-- Bert


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#1 posted 12-29-2010 07:17 PM

To assess the potential of painting it would be good to know the species of the face frames and doors and the finish that is on them—probably lacquer—and the general condition.

Are there details in the doors?

Regarding condition, are there a lot of fingernail marks around the hardware?

Hinges: You could consider upgrading to Euro hinges for a more modern look if the current hinge barrels are exposed.

Painted cabinets can really light up a dark kitchen; you may be onto something in that alone, but not every kitchen is paint ready or paint friendly.

I’m sure our brothers and sisters will have some creative ideas for you!

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#2 posted 12-29-2010 07:49 PM

Tahnk you Lee.
The English name of the wood specie skip my mind right now ( not oak and not ash nor beech)
Not many finger nails marks.
I shall relocate and replace the door pulls by a small know on the side of the door .( presently right in the middle of the raised panel. They are huge and ugly).Yes the current hinges are exposed but in addition the doors are cut to let them trough so I do not think that ti want to mess with them.
“but not every kitchen is paint ready or paint friendly”
what do you mean?

-- Bert

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#3 posted 12-29-2010 08:31 PM

Open grained woods like oak and ash, in my opinion, don’t paint well.

If your finish happens to be something like polyurethane or a conversion varnish, it will need to be scarified (roughed up) to give the new paint some tooth to grab onto. That’s a lot of work, especially when there are fancy details routed into the edges of the doors and drawer fronts.

I agree those center-of-the-panel pulls are awkward and not very pretty.

I understand your comment on the hinges—”double (or single) demountable” is the trade generic name for them. Sounds smart to let them be.

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#4 posted 12-29-2010 09:04 PM

You can paint open-grained woods. It just takes more preparation
and a lot of grain filling. The grain will still telegraph through the
paint in places, but the effect is not unattractive – it reminds you
that the doors are real wood, not MDF.

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#5 posted 12-29-2010 09:17 PM

Bert, I am in the middle of doing just the same in our bathroom. Color and door style does not match the new tile (????). I removed the doors and drawers and sink plates. I started to use finsih stripper but that became old. Too slow. I ended up sanding away the original finsih off the cabinets. Now I just have to finish building the new drawers and doors. The color will be a stain and poly finish.
That really does not answer your question about painting them. Either way to prep for refinish or paint there will be a lot of dirty work.

-- Dan, Naperville IL, I.G.N.

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#6 posted 12-29-2010 09:20 PM

Make This One for mere pennies.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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#7 posted 12-29-2010 09:53 PM

Now there’s a sound investment. Now if they were gold coins…

I just finished my kitchen and the cabinets are painted on the outside, varnish on the inside. Face frames and door frames are poplar and painted on both sides. If you have the tools, I would recommend making new doors, it was less of a pain than refinishing and it makes for great skill building. If you make a mistake or it gets damaged, you know where to get another one – you make it. This way you can stain, paint, or whatever you want and change it.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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#8 posted 12-30-2010 12:44 AM

You might want to consider refacing them. That’s basically just covering them with a veener. I’ve refinished a lot of kitchens this way just using veeners that come with a hot glue on the back. That and some new doors and drawer fronts will give you new looking hardwood cabinets for a fraction of the work and cost of new cabinets.

-- Don - I wood work if I could. Redmond WA.

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