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Forum topic by Popsnsons posted 12-27-2010 03:39 AM 4987 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-27-2010 03:39 AM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw carter guide stabilizer question

I got a new Carter (CTR1) Stabilizer for my 14” bandsaw as a gift. My saw takes the Carter (STD1) model unless I upgrade to the Carter bandsaw guide conversion for my saw. In the near future I will be getting the Carter Magfence that works really well with the guide conversion set up. But, my big question is…will the Carter Magfence work well with my standard block style guides? If so I can swap the CTR1 for the STD1 and save $170.00 on the conversion kit. If not I’ll need to keep the CTR1 and also upgrade to the conversion kit.

-- Pops ~ In So Cal...


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#1 posted 12-27-2010 05:20 AM

I use the guides on my 14” Jet with 6” riser blocks and love the carter Guides.

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#2 posted 12-27-2010 10:29 AM

I’ve used Carter band saw products for years and have yet to find one that has not impressed me in actual use in the shop.

-- Tom Hintz, www.newwoodworker.com

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#3 posted 12-27-2010 04:15 PM

Thanks guys. I’ll have to make the decision to add the stabilizer, magfence and the guides,. Or just the stabilizer and the magfence.

-- Pops ~ In So Cal...

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#4 posted 12-27-2010 05:17 PM

I have an old Craftsman 12” band saw, that I picked up about 15 years ago used for $50. It got me by but nothing special. Ok let’s be honest, it was usable that’s about it. I have been on the look out to upgrade, but just haven’t justified the expense yet. A couple of weeks ago I saw the Carter demonstration at a wood working show here in Chicago. I fell weak to the sales pitch and bought a set of guides for the band saw, just hoping to tweak out some performance and save a few bucks compared to buying a new saw. I purchased the standard bearing guides and the one for tight curves. All I can say is these things are unbelievable. I have been able to do things with this saw that I did not think were possible. I am getting accurate resaw cuts, and have been able to make tight curves. The thought of a new band saw has been put on the shelf. Now what to do about a new planer????

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#5 posted 12-27-2010 05:35 PM

i got carter guides for my 18” mini-max
after i discovered
the original lower guide was gone completely
(must have fallen out years ago
and been swept up)
WOW
what a difference !
got the mag fence too
but haven’t used it much yet
it is good for any tool with a metal table
even to extend the side of the tools too

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Steve Rathke

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#6 posted 12-28-2010 04:25 AM

I have Carter bearings, an upgrade with microadjust and also a magfence on my Powermatic pwbs14cs . The 16” Magfence is good for resaw and jigs. The bearing style is better over the blocks since the blocks wear faster and Carter bearings can handle the Stabilizer for super tight curves. I am very happy with the control and accuracy of the Carter products. Ive had mine for two years.

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#7 posted 12-28-2010 06:31 AM

It sounds like I need to own the stabilizer, bearing guide set and the magfence. I saw the demo at the woodworking show in Costa Mesa in October. That’s what sold me on the stabilizer. I saw the magfence in a magazine ahead of time and thought how easy is that? Looks like a no brainer. But it appears that the fence would perform better with the new guides Vs. the OEM guides that are installed currently. If I go with the new guides my stabilizer will fit. If I stay with the original guides I’ll have to exchange my stabilizer for the correct model.

-- Pops ~ In So Cal...

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#8 posted 12-28-2010 06:33 AM

Thanks guys. I value your input.

-- Pops ~ In So Cal...

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#9 posted 12-30-2010 04:33 PM

I opted to use my existing guides so I sent the Stabilizer back to exchange it for the one that will fit my saw. I’ll get the Magfence in January and will be on my way to new creations!

-- Pops ~ In So Cal...

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#10 posted 01-01-2011 01:09 AM

Alex Snodgrass demos the products at wood working shows. He makes little reindeer fast out of a bock of wood. he uses a 1/8 th inch blade and stabilizer. if you have a magfence you can mount a circle jig or center pivot. it has t-track built in and if you mount it on the right side edge of the table its handy to add these type of features on your band saw. Alex and the company who were at the show in Denver were helpful in getting the right model bearings for me. Carter’s website also has a search feature to help locate the right set.

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#11 posted 01-01-2011 06:58 PM

Steve, I’ll have the Magfence soon. I knew you could use it on the side edge of the table as an extension but never thought of using the tracks for accessories. Thanks for the tip. That brings added value.

-- Pops ~ In So Cal...

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#12 posted 01-01-2011 08:53 PM

Is Carter stuff any good? YOU BET ! I have the guide system, the blade tension lever & last but not least the little brush that keeps dust from between your tires & the blade. I love this equipment it makes bandsaws dance & sing.

Pop

-- One who works with his hands is a laborer, his hands & head A craftsman, his hands, head & heart a artist

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#13 posted 01-01-2011 09:02 PM

I purchased a conversion kit for my MiniMax E-16 a few weeks ago. This kit includes the Guidall 500 bearing guides. Had two issues with the guides and customer service with Carter was terrible. They wanted to charge me for replacement parts for their design/manufacturing errors. I was on the phone with one of their engineers for 45 min and he even had one of the 500 guides in his hand and agreed that there was a part/design issue. It involved insufficient side to side adjustment for the rear thrust bearing to get it centered in the fixture. He admitted that he could not get the one he had to center. The 500 thrust bearing has a groove for the blade to ride in and the groove needs to be centered to be able to get the side bearing to adjust correctly. If the rear bearing groove is not centered then there is not enough adjustment in the side bearing to get it adjusted properly. They offered no solution or even an inclination to solve the problem. His attitude was it’s fine and their products are perfect. Then in the next sentence he’s telling me how to machine the parts to get them to work properly. I quickly made it clear to him I am not a machinist and for the cost of this I should not have to be. I could rant on about this but finally told him to have a nice day and I will chalk this up to a very bad experience.
I will still have to remove the guides and try to do some handi man filing and grinding to get the clearances and adjustments to get this working properly. I’ve always read and heard great things about their guides and was and still am very disappointed. I’m sure their other guide systems must be better or there wouldn’t be so many great reviews. The 500 system is suppose to be for larger saws but is designed poorly.
Good luck with your purchases.

Edit: My conversion kit was the SM16. I also purchased the Stabilizer and will say that I’m happy with that.

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#14 posted 01-04-2011 03:38 AM

Unlike the bearings that came with my powermatic saw Carter bearings can handle up to a 1 inch blade on 14” saws. I have the 6” rizer for my saw and magfence and a 1 inch blade – that makes resaw nice.

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Pop

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#15 posted 01-04-2011 05:39 PM

I run Carter on my Delta 14 in. saw, but I have cool blocks on my Shopsmith 11 in. saw. I only run 1 blade size on the 11 in. saw 1/16 in. It’s the world’s fastest scroll saw. I may up the size to 1/8 in. due to blade breakage. The cool blocks surround my blade on all sides. The wear seem small.

Pop

-- One who works with his hands is a laborer, his hands & head A craftsman, his hands, head & heart a artist

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