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Forum topic by Mainiac Matt posted 07-13-2017 07:33 PM 557 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Mainiac Matt

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07-13-2017 07:33 PM

Topic tags/keywords: finishing poplar conditioner stain die solar lux

Hi all,

I’m building a Blue Tooth speaker (budget build for shop tunes)...

And I need some advise on finishing Poplar, which I’ve been warned is prone to blotching . Also, since this project is being done on the cheap, I’d like to bias my decision towards using what I have.
-> I have a jug of Behlan Solar Lux medium Mahogany that I think will look nice.
-> I have a brand new can of Dark Walnut gel stain.
-> I have a can of General water based stain (Pecan color).
-> I have some old cans of solvent based stain.

I have these choices for blotch control on the shelf….
-> Blond Shellac
-> General finishes natural (uncolored water based poly “stain”). I’ve used this as a sanding sealer and blotch control when staining Pine and it has worked very well.
-> An old can of Minwax Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner, but did not have good luck with this when staining Pine.

Can someone who’s finished a lot of Poplar give me a recommendation from my list?

Also, I have some specific questions about the Solar Lux, which I’ve never used before.

Q1. Can I cut the Solar Lux with denatured alcohol? Or do I need to buy the Behlan reducer?
Q2. Which of my options above would work better for conditioning and blotch control under the diluted Solar Lux.
Q3. Should I wipe or brush on the reduced Solar Lux? Or should I spray it? (I have a gun, but am light on experience with it)

All helpful replies are appreciated.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!


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pauljuilleret

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#1 posted 07-14-2017 10:58 AM

first off of you stain poplar with an oil stain it should have a pre conditioner put on it first let that sit for a few minutes then wipe off the excess. Once that has been done then apply the stain. I for one do not use the water based stains yet. then after 24 hours apply the top coat finish. as of lately I have been using spar varnish with a lite sanding between the first and second coat . for an interesting look try using cherry stain I have had some good results with that and the grain in the wood does resemble cherry. good luck with your project.

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CharlesNeil

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#2 posted 07-14-2017 12:24 PM

Solar lux is indeed alcohol base … anytime you see NGR (non grain raising) its alcohol, some times some other stuf but DNA will thin it. With that said using shellac for a blotch control unless your spraying isnt a good idea .. it going to melt the shellac you will have a mess .The water base from GF is your best bet , but Please test .. my Blotch control wont tolerate alcohol base dyes .. not sure on the Gf , which is basically just a neutral stain base ..ya gotta test .

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Mainiac Matt

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#3 posted 07-14-2017 12:35 PM

thanks for the replies…. I’ll test some combinations this weekend.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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Mainiac Matt

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#4 posted 07-14-2017 02:47 PM

as requested via. PM, here’s a link the BT amp board I’m using.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#5 posted 07-14-2017 03:35 PM

Not sure what GF wb poly “stain” is, never heard of it. If it is GF wb poly, it will work well for blotch control. You will need to test for the correct dilution. I’d start 1:1. Soak the wood well for several minutes then wipe off. Here is some blotch control info. Prefer to spray alcohol based dyes, but I prefer not to use them.

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Mainiac Matt

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#6 posted 07-14-2017 03:51 PM

I’m talking about this stuff…. my older can doesn’t say “pre-stain conditioner” but it is the only “Natural” I can see that GF sells.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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CharlesNeil

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#7 posted 07-14-2017 04:51 PM

thats the stuff Matt.. Test . test then test again

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Mainiac Matt

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#8 posted 07-14-2017 07:43 PM

As noted before, I’ve done a lot of Pine trim with the General Natural and then stained and then finish coated with MinWax Poly-Acrylic, and I’ve come to figure that the Natrual is really just diluted water based poly.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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bret0826

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#9 posted 07-16-2017 09:17 PM

I never had much luck staining poplar.I only use it if I know I am going to paint the project.sorry I couldn’t be more help

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