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12-25-2010 07:28 PM

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Ok folks,
I need some Advice. I am considering laminating up a blank for a Pennsylvania Long Rifle. First, has anyone tried this? Second, what type of glue would you suggest? I have read several things which suggest everything from Gorilla Glue (not recomended) to Expoy to Regular titebond. What i dont want is a really obvious glue line when i begin to shape the stock.

Thanks in advance,
Harold

-- where is the duct tape.....


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#1 posted 12-25-2010 10:26 PM

I use Titebond III for custom cork grips for fishing rods. Works great. A laminated stock will look great. What woods are you using?

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#2 posted 12-25-2010 10:55 PM

Epoxy leaves the biggest glue line; waterblown poly not recommended: that leaves you Titebond II, a good choice I would think.

Glue lines are pretty small edge on, but once you shape a curve over them, they start to show in two ways: The glue line widens on the bias, and any difference in grain patterns will be magnified.

That said, I think a glue line down the center would be the most minimally obvious.

Sounds like the beginnin’ of a fine adventure!

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#3 posted 12-25-2010 11:26 PM

I would suggest plain white Elmers glue. It has supperior holding on wood and drys clear so the joints wont show. Finish with an oil based poly to water proof the stock and you wont have any issues with it in the future. Good luck and please post pics of the finished project.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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#4 posted 12-26-2010 09:02 PM

laminating up a blank for a Pennsylvania Long Rifle? Why? Where is your sense of tradition? Doesn’t it deserve curly maple? or cherry? :-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#5 posted 12-27-2010 02:52 AM

It will be maple, but i am having trouble finding a source of 8-10/4 material which i dont have to pay an arm and a leg for. So i am considering laminating two pieces of Maple to the correct pre-construction thickness.

Harold

-- where is the duct tape.....

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#6 posted 12-27-2010 04:20 AM

Have you tried Track of the Wolf or Log Cabin ML Supply? I was lookng at stocks a while back and they were less than I expected them to be. I’m not sure where I found them now, maybe one of those two. I think Track’s were mostly precarved.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 12-27-2010 10:18 PM

I would NOT go with the clear Elmer’s. It’s not waterproof, and poly finish or not, I’d be concerned about delaminating from absorption of water vapor. In all fairness, I’ve never tried that – just being cautious.

I like Lee Barker’s idea of going right down the middle.

-- Bob www.singularengineering.com - A sideline, not how I earn a living

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#8 posted 12-28-2010 02:24 AM

I just remembered a fellow LJ who does laminated stocks for modern firearms. A search should turn him up.

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#9 posted 12-28-2010 03:01 AM

Here he is

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#10 posted 12-30-2010 02:35 AM

By the way, Elmers makes a white glue that is type II waterproof, sandable, stainable and stronger than plain pva. I’m using iy now and it seems to have a bit more open time. I like it.

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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#11 posted 12-30-2010 03:30 AM

What is it called?

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#12 posted 12-31-2010 09:48 PM

Plastic resin glue is the one I use for laminations. It dries hard and
doesn’t creep like white and yellow glues can. You buy it powdered
and mix it up. It is a brown glue and the glue line is dark but will be
thin if you do the joints right and clamp them properly.

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