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Tideline77

102 posts in 920 days


07-08-2017 04:46 PM

Last year forum members gave me a ton of advise selecting a tablesaw,router table and a planer

I got the delta 36-5000 saw with cast iron wings on sale
Dewalt 735 planer with infeed/outfeed and a extra set of blades on sale, I think it was $499 and free shipping
The router table was the low priced grizzly $139
I already had a 12” Milwaukee CSMS
Compressor
And finish nailers, some clamps
And an outfeed table/assembly table
Two routers

I have built a few projects and also built a detached carport 24×24

With the boat and truck now out of the way living under the carport…....the 1100 sq ft insulated,heated and cooled 2 car garage will become a wood shop. I am ready to move to the next stage of setting up a functional one man wood shop
With 1100 sq ft I might put a couch and a tv also and a beer fridge

I have a carpentry background and have a list of things to build , I really struggle in a dysfunctional environment
So when a project requires setting up all the tools and then putting them back away…..that drives me nuts
Those days I hope will be over soon when I get everything setup. Flip the lights on and go to work.

But

I need a jointer,a drill press,bandsaw and dust collection.
Already wired for 110 and 220 won’t be too much of a task because I have 200 amp service and the breaker panel is in the garage.

The jointer needs to be able to handle long stock as I plan to do some counter top glue ups
So I would like to have an 8” jointer , I have room for a 12”.......but the budget
Budget the budget.

The bandsaw for cutting patterns,curves and tenons…...resawing has not entered into my plans at this time
But it could
Never owned a bandsaw, my project list at this time doesn’t involve resawing

Drill press…...gotta have a drill press

Dust collection…..why the heck is it so expensive ?
I have room to pipe a drop to each machine and I have 11’ ceilings and I can vent outside
This is attached to my house, so cutting a hole in the wall to vent outside…might not be the best idea. It’s a 4 year old house.
I would prefer to have a two stage cyclone based on researching dust collection

Budgeting $5000 to $6000

I have zero confidence in craigslist….....please don’t suggest craigslist…..I have looked at craigslist for 3 years
With no luck

I am asking for suggestions on new equipment

I have looked and read reviews until my eyes are glazing over

Will the forum brain trust help me out here ?

Thank you in advance


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Bill White

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#1 posted 07-08-2017 05:14 PM

Check out the Grizzly offerings.
The 0555 (LX) bandsaw is a quality tool, then all the DP and TS models.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Holbs

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#2 posted 07-08-2017 06:20 PM

I could only imagine the auctions in your southern area, as compared to my desolate rare auctions in Nevada. Yet, I have managed to score amazing items (PM66 for $150, 8” jointer for $100, etc). Heck, 75% of items in my wood shop probably still have the auction tag on them :)
I could easily get under $1000 budget via auctions and your zero confidence in CL.

Let’s see… 8” jointer. How fancy do you want to go? Parallelogram type or dovetail way older type? My 8” GeeTech jointer is dovetail way (meaning, the bed slides up and down on angled dovetails). It’s 100% functional.

Bandsaw. I have a 14” taiwan clone for $100 that does everything required of a bandsaw, minus large resawing. Don’t count out resawing needs for projects down the road. My local hardwood distributor only has basswood in 4/4 and 8/4. What a waste if it had to knock down that 8/4 to the final 1 1/6” dimension. I can only resaw upto 5 5/8” or so. Really want the Laguna 14/12 eventually.

Drill press. Eh… my 10” delta does everything required for $100. I have not bored a 2” forstner bit hole in Ironwood though.

Dust collection in itself takes research that you will have to dig. Various ways to get what you want done. Your answers lie in previous LJ forum posts & reviews.

For $5000-$6000 budget, maybe buy brand new Powermatic if you are determined on that budget. I may not offer great advice on this subject cause I’ve never bought anything “new” (except my Bosch 4100). Just wanted to toss this post out there for other’s who do not have the budget you mention.

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter

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Aj2

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#3 posted 07-08-2017 06:38 PM

That’s a nice budget for buying used.You could easily get into a 20 inch bandsaw and 12 inch jointer and still have half your budget left.Have you looked further out of your area,don’t shy away from buying a used older machine that needs work.All woodworking machines need Matinence and work even new ones.

-- Aj

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JRsgarage

305 posts in 658 days


#4 posted 07-08-2017 07:13 PM

as for band saw, i would take a look at Jet jwbs-14dxpro. 12” resaw capacity and doesn’t need a riser. free shipping, currently @ $917.99

-- Two is One, One is None

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Aj2

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#5 posted 07-08-2017 08:26 PM

Where are you located out here in Calif.Some have hobbies restoring machines and sell them pretty cheap.
Check this out .
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/tls/6210392120.html

-- Aj

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Jo-Ann

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#6 posted 07-08-2017 11:15 PM



Last year forum members gave me a ton of advise selecting a tablesaw,router table and a planer

I got the delta 36-5000 saw with cast iron wings on sale
Dewalt 735 planer with infeed/outfeed and a extra set of blades on sale, I think it was $499 and free shipping
The router table was the low priced grizzly $139
I already had a 12” Milwaukee CSMS
Compressor
And finish nailers, some clamps
And an outfeed table/assembly table
Two routers

I have built a few projects and also built a detached carport 24×24

With the boat and truck now out of the way living under the carport…....the 1100 sq ft insulated,heated and cooled 2 car garage will become a wood shop. I am ready to move to the next stage of setting up a functional one man wood shop
With 1100 sq ft I might put a couch and a tv also and a beer fridge

I have a carpentry background and have a list of things to build , I really struggle in a dysfunctional environment
So when a project requires setting up all the tools and then putting them back away…..that drives me nuts
Those days I hope will be over soon when I get everything setup. Flip the lights on and go to work.

But

I need a jointer,a drill press,bandsaw and dust collection.
Already wired for 110 and 220 won t be too much of a task because I have 200 amp service and the breaker panel is in the garage.

The jointer needs to be able to handle long stock as I plan to do some counter top glue ups
So I would like to have an 8” jointer , I have room for a 12”.......but the budget
Budget the budget.

The bandsaw for cutting patterns,curves and tenons…...resawing has not entered into my plans at this time
But it could
Never owned a bandsaw, my project list at this time doesn t involve resawing

Drill press…...gotta have a drill press

Dust collection…..why the heck is it so expensive ?
I have room to pipe a drop to each machine and I have 11 ceilings and I can vent outside
This is attached to my house, so cutting a hole in the wall to vent outside…might not be the best idea. It s a 4 year old house.
I would prefer to have a two stage cyclone based on researching dust collection

Budgeting $5000 to $6000

I have zero confidence in craigslist….....please don t suggest craigslist…..I have looked at craigslist for 3 years
With no luck

I am asking for suggestions on new equipment

I have looked and read reviews until my eyes are glazing over

Will the forum brain trust help me out here ?

Thank you in advance

- Tideline77


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Jo-Ann

2 posts in 471 days


#7 posted 07-08-2017 11:35 PM

Hi…I’m not representing myself as part of the brain trust, but I do have a like new bandsaw and older drill press for sale. My husband, a former woodworker has become ill and I must sell his wonderful tools and a large exotic wood collection (a storage unit full of it!)

The bandsaw is a Mini-Max 16” purchased for $2,700 in 2005. The price is $1,600. He also has a drill press (Delta w/table) that runs great for $400. I noticed that you are in the market for both. As an aside, he is also selling his 2011 Woodpeckers PRP 2V2420 router table package w/ many extras like an optional feather board track, pair of boards, handguard and 17 aluminum rings, plus more for $800. If you could use any of these things, please let me know.

Thank you,

Jo-Ann

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TungOil

1034 posts in 644 days


#8 posted 07-09-2017 01:31 AM

For dust collection, be sure you design the piping around the machinery THEN pick a DC that has the capacity to service your tools, not the other way around. Read this for excellent guidance on how to set up your DC system: https://airhand.com/designing/

I recently upgraded my jointer to a Powermatic PM-60HH. 8” helical head, very nice machine. I would recommend it.

don’t get less than a 14” bandsaw, you will eventually be disappointed with anything less.

Same for a drill press, get a floor model. This is one area you can score on Craig’s List- I see them for sale all the time here in the PA area and there’s not much that can go wrong with a DP except the amateurs “arc of shame”

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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Tideline77

102 posts in 920 days


#9 posted 07-09-2017 01:36 AM

Jo-Ann

I’m sorry your husband is ill and thank you for letting me know about the tools you are selling

Unfortunately I live about 1400 miles away…...down on the Gulfcoast

The logistics is too far away for me

I have been to Pogosa many times, I lived in Del Norte for 17 years
My house I built here is western style and looks like a Colorado mountain cabin inside

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jonah

1844 posts in 3448 days


#10 posted 07-09-2017 01:53 AM

I’d recommend a Grizzly 8” helical head jointer. Setting jointer knives is a tremendous pain in the ass, even though you don’t have to do it often. Every time I do have to, though, I want to throw the jointer through a window. It’s a good thing they’re too heavy for that.

I would start with the jointer ($1400), a 14” band saw (probably also Griz if you are ruling out Craigslist, ~$700), a 10-12” bench top drill press (unless you do a lot on the drill press there is absolutely no reason to get a floor model, $150), and then get professional help with the dust collection. You’ll want a cyclone system with a good filter setup. Do not vent outside if you plan to air condition your shop. Venting outside will just send all your conditioned air out with the dust.

Fortunately, there are a bunch of roll-around cyclone setups, though they do run into four figures. If you don’t mind rolling the thing around to each machine, you can save money there and maybe spend $1000-$1500.

It shouldn’t be a problem to get all four machines for your budget unless you absolutely have to have a stationary, beefy cyclone dust collector setup, which can easily run $3000+ by itself.

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