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Marn64

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07-03-2017 07:24 PM

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Hey everyone,
I went to my local Habitat for Humanity ReStore today and I found this real pretty Stanley no 4. I believe it is somewhere in the range of type 7, 8, or 9, but I am not sure. It still has really nice Japanning and not a lot of paint splatters all over it as is so very common in rusty planes. I have had some issues with citric acid dulling japanning in the past and I don’t want to do that to this one, any ideas?









-- Benjamin, Milwaukee


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#1 posted 07-03-2017 07:57 PM

Evaporust will be the ticket if you didnt like citric. If rust gets under the jappaning youll get some flaking no matter what you use though. I suspect that was the problem with the CA.

Nice find!

-- Its not a crack, its a casting imperfection.

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#2 posted 07-03-2017 08:01 PM

I wash the plane with soapy water to clean
the Japaning. Leave it out in the sun to dry,
then I wire brush the rust off and work it
over with fine stearated sandpaper to get
the rust out of the grain of the iron. Then
wax.

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#3 posted 07-03-2017 08:06 PM

I’ve not restored many but I lik white vinegar to take the rust off tools

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#4 posted 07-03-2017 09:13 PM

That is an old puppy. Go lightly no matter what you use.
Bill

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#5 posted 07-03-2017 10:18 PM

I’m a fan of evaporust. Just run it (less the wood) through the dishwasher, the soak in Evapo-Rust. Go easy on wire brushing. Try plastic brush, then brass, steel only as last resort.

It looks like not much meat on the blade, so surely don’t use a power grinder.

-Paul

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Marn64

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#6 posted 07-04-2017 04:11 AM

Thanks for the responses, I figured out the type study by the way, it is earlier than I thought. It is a type 6, which dates it to 1888-1892.

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#7 posted 07-04-2017 04:18 AM

I love me some low knobs.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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mski

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#8 posted 07-04-2017 05:46 AM

OH YES I just got one too type 9. , also consider through the years people could have bought different parts for repair so only the body casting is time telling. look here
http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating_flowchart.php
Having a hard time getting my iron flat but everything else going good keep us posted

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#9 posted 07-04-2017 06:00 AM

OOPS I got side tracked about your question
DON’T acid bath it !!!
DON’T Rust magic it !
NO Vinegar !!!
All the metal just soak in a penetrating oil like PB Blaster Kroil etc then brush with steel wool scotchbrite or the like only work on rusty portions, Flatten the sole, iron, breaker and frog.
100+ years to get a patina and ruin it with rust buster YIKES !!!!!!!!

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#10 posted 07-04-2017 10:57 AM

If you’re going to be using the plane to, you know, actually plane wood, who gives a damn about the patina? Evapo-Rust is what I use. It works great. Electrolysis on very large things that I can’t easily submerge in Evapo-Rust.

In this case, Evapo-Rust is the ticket. Pick up a gallon at Harbor Freight with the 25% off coupon today and you’ll be out the door for less than $20.

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#11 posted 07-04-2017 11:38 AM

Plus 1 on the evapo rust. I just love the low knob Stanley’s.

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JBrow

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#12 posted 07-04-2017 04:08 PM

Marn64,

Paul Sellers’ video on restoring a bench plane might be worth a look…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyV6IUpsYk

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bigJohninvegas

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#13 posted 07-04-2017 04:40 PM

Spot on with the evaporust, and a softer brush.
This old #5 Bailey plane looked just like yours before evaporust.
I still need a new tote for it.
the old cap iron and blade was to far gone so I bought a new one from lee valley.
http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=66868&cat=1,41182


I m a fan of evaporust. Just run it (less the wood) through the dishwasher, the soak in Evapo-Rust. Go easy on wire brushing. Try plastic brush, then brass, steel only as last resort.


-- John

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Marn64

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#14 posted 07-06-2017 08:12 PM

I went out and bought some evaporust today, I currently have the blade and chipbreaker soaking right now, I am going to check in on it in an hour.

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#15 posted 07-07-2017 01:53 AM

The japanning is in pretty good shape for a plane that old that doesnt need much work

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